soo..what you're saying is that you're not really a big and scary guy ?:rotfl:
180 cm, 122 kg

It's not that I am big and scary, but I'm no one you would jump on without a better reason than a political comment.

People like to think every anti war anti military person is some 130 pounds homosexual. That isn't the case.

:huh:Jim man where do you get this stuff. :rotfl: Jeeze. I need a drink after that one.:()1:

At 244 pounds maybe you should skip lunch. Not anti anti-military, just noticing.

Well, it's definately not a six pack. I can't lie :doh:

Well don't go trying this with a drink in yer hand :lol:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O6LOCl...eature=related

Just wondering ....
THE British navy has completed a discreet clean-out of the senior figures involved in the debacle over the arrest by Iranian Revolutionary Guards of 15 British sailors and marines.
Is this debacle the debacle where they were operating in waters that British admiralty orders said they could not operate in and the UN mandate under which they were conducting operations said they coud not operate in but were captured while conducting operations in ?
Just curious as to if this clean out is a punishment of senior figures is for breaking the rules or for being caught badly while breaking the rules .

A little bit of evidence as to what their precise location was at the time would be helpful.

They are being punished for the affair being turned into an 3 ring circus looks like to me.

The Royal Navy provided the evidence of location at the time, it was backed up not only by the GPS but also by the attendant warship and the helicopters that were dispatched .
The British government first claimed that they were in Iraqi waters , then that they were in international waters .
The Admiralty then said they were in waters that are disputed by Iran and Iraq which both claim soveriegnty , they also said that the RN is not permitted to operate in disputed waters as doing so not only is beyond the UN mandate but can be taken as an act of agression .
The Navy said that the possible explanation for this mistake was that the boats had drifted during the operation and entering the waters was unintentional , however the Iranians claimed that six previous instances showed that it was an established pattern of British vessels operating in the disputed waters .
Now I don't doubt that in all possiblity both the Iranian and British governments told lies , but when the admiralty said they were in disputed waters then I am kinda tempted to believe them .

I believe a lot depends upon which side of the propaganda machinery/mechanism you have confidence in.

How far after the actual event did the RN release this statement?

It really wouldn't suprise me if a swift release was agreed subject to a 'neutral' admission by the RN at a pre determined time acceptable to both sides.

So you weigh more than the norm, I did not notice you challenge the rest of the stereotype. Since stereotypes appear to be your specialty it makes one ponder.

I know one thing, I live in America and the only way I would meet you anywhere is in public during daylight hours and you better stay out in front of me where I can see you. Don't think for a second all that submariners are homosexuals crap, homey don't play that.