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Neptunus Rex 11-21-08 07:16 PM

Four stars and an anchor on blue field. Is that the flag for SECNAV flying from the main mast?

Deamon 11-21-08 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Etienne
I heard the figure of 96 000 HP bandied about on the VHF today.

Add to this 17.160 HP of the Diesels. Now that is one hell of a thrust for a 3000t ship, when you comapare this to the total of 62070 HP of the new frigate Bayern(4700t) but with its turbines alone which makes 51680 HP in total it eaches supposedly 30 kn and with Diesels 21 kts. But adding both together it can perhaps go close to the 40 kts.

But the USS Freedome must be a hack of a ship. which is much smaller than the bayern. I am wondering how much room is taken away by the engines alone. There must be also a huge leap in performance of the turbines I presume.

Deamon 11-21-08 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Etienne
And then another, smaller boat started calling for them to slow down (They would have been SWAMPED) so she went down to 12 kts in like... 200 meters. Seriously, she just died.

Could you see whether she hit reverse in that process ?

Etienne 11-22-08 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Etienne
And then another, smaller boat started calling for them to slow down (They would have been SWAMPED) so she went down to 12 kts in like... 200 meters. Seriously, she just died.

Could you see whether she hit reverse in that process ?

I couldn't say, sorry. I wasn't looking at that precise moment.

If she has traditionnal waterjets, they don't really reverse : A bucket drops behind the jet and redirects the waterflow. I don't know if you can do that at 38 kts.

But then, I don't pretend to have a clue as to how the ship's propelled.

SandyCaesar 11-22-08 12:23 AM

3000-ton stealth corvette, SF transport, and jetski combination...

USS Freedom: one seriously awesome ship.:rock: Great shots, Etienne!

PeriscopeDepth 11-22-08 12:43 AM

Thanks for posting these Etienne. One of the best GT threads this week. :up:

Are you a professional sailor, if you don't mind me asking? And I don't mean in a Village People kinda way. :D

Edit: Doh, reading your profile answered that question.

PD

PeriscopeDepth 11-22-08 12:48 AM

I know I am a whore for this blog way too often, but my favorite naval blogger somehow got himself a ticket on Freedom for this trip and has been writing about it/posting a few pictures.

http://informationdissemination.blog...arch/label/LCS

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Originally Posted by Rex
Four stars and an anchor on blue field. Is that the flag for SECNAV flying from the main mast?

You're right, according to the above link he's along for part of the trip.

PD

Onkel Neal 11-22-08 01:59 AM

So cool, linked to the main SUBSIM News page. :up:

TarJak 11-22-08 05:25 AM

Nice shots! Awesome looking machine. The kind of thing we should be building for our navy.

Skybird 11-22-08 05:30 AM

If you want to really demoralise your enemy at sea, overtake him while doing water-skiing. :D

Rilder 11-22-08 07:02 AM

I'l be honest she doesn't look like a good looking ship to me :|

Add in a set of 16" Guns then she might look ok.

fatty 11-22-08 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rilder
I'l be honest she doesn't look like a good looking ship to me :|

Add in a set of 16" Guns then she might look ok.

Hmm, could it be the sound of $400 million beyond the original baseline delivery price being crammed into the shipbuilding budgetary vacuum?

ekempey 11-22-08 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake
Nice shots, is it just me or does she seem a bit down by the bow?

She probably isn't fully loaded with ordinance or the Multi-Mission-Modules yet.

August 11-22-08 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fatty
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Originally Posted by Rilder
I'l be honest she doesn't look like a good looking ship to me :|

Add in a set of 16" Guns then she might look ok.

Hmm, could it be the sound of $400 million beyond the original baseline delivery price being crammed into the shipbuilding budgetary vacuum?

A large, rather useless, but hugely expensive target is what my sources tell me...

CDR Resser 11-22-08 05:21 PM

Thanks for the pictures. Must have been interesting to see in person.

Molon Labe 11-22-08 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by fatty
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Originally Posted by Rilder
I'l be honest she doesn't look like a good looking ship to me :|

Add in a set of 16" Guns then she might look ok.

Hmm, could it be the sound of $400 million beyond the original baseline delivery price being crammed into the shipbuilding budgetary vacuum?

A large, rather useless, but hugely expensive target is what my sources tell me...

Like everything else these days, we tried to do too much with a single platform. We would have been better off making a frigate/corvette with mission modules and a large mothership instead of trying to do everything with this one hull.

The reason it's so fast, I think, is because they sacrificed durability. Although it's meant to operate like a combattant, it's has the survivability rating of a rear-echelon ship.

Sailor Steve 11-22-08 06:41 PM

It's fast because it's not a ship, it's a great great GREAT big boat!

I wonder how it handles in rough weather?

Rilder 11-22-08 07:51 PM

I supose it could be retro fitted into a fishing vessel.

August 11-22-08 09:06 PM

It'd make a great Coast Guard cutter.

Orion2012 11-22-08 10:55 PM

Nice pics!


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