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_Seth_ 01-29-09 12:33 PM

Today, the Norwegian government decided to raise the U-864, due to the possible environmental damage all the mercury onboard could cause:cool::up:
Link to norwegian newspaper: http://www.bt.no/lokalt/hordaland/article782736.ece

Kapt Z 01-29-09 12:50 PM

Isn't the sunken 'german' u-boat still official 'german' property??? Does Germany have a say in all this?

I certainly hope they don't run into problems in the salvage attempt....:huh:

bigboywooly 01-29-09 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapt Z
Isn't the sunken 'german' u-boat still official 'german' property??? Does Germany have a say in all this?

I certainly hope they don't run into problems in the salvage attempt....:huh:

Should really be classed as a war grave but I think the enviromental impacts outwiegh all other concerns at the moment

Whats that cost equate too Seth ?

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som vil koste rundt en milliard kroner.

_Seth_ 01-29-09 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Whats that cost equate too Seth ?

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som vil koste rundt en milliard kroner.

About 1 billion Norwegian kroner, app. 147 million, 717033 thousand dollars.. But i think this number will be larger, since noone really knows how the technical state of the vessel is.

Kapt Z 01-29-09 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapt Z
Isn't the sunken 'german' u-boat still official 'german' property??? Does Germany have a say in all this?

I certainly hope they don't run into problems in the salvage attempt....:huh:

Should really be classed as a war grave but I think the enviromental impacts outwiegh all other concerns at the moment

Oh, I agree on the necessity. I was just curious if the Norwegians had to get a ok from the German gov't.

danurve 01-29-09 03:38 PM

Well I wouldn't want poison in my water supply or food chain, and it looks as if the decision has been made yes? I am worried that any goofy liberal government or organization will see this as a precedent to be able to raise any war grave out of possible concern for the environment.

bigboywooly 01-29-09 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by danurve
Well I wouldn't want poison in my water supply or food chain, and it looks as if the decision has been made yes? I am worried that any goofy liberal government or organization will see this as a precedent to be able to raise any war grave out of possible concern for the environment.

At the cost mentioned by Seth I doubt it
During various research hunts have read more than one diving site
A few times has been mentioned that parts of boats have been stripped by souvenir hunters inc those designated war graves
A lot of sites out there to protect

I doubt there are many wrecks out there with such a timebomb as U 864 carried and as close to a coastline

Madox58 01-29-09 05:46 PM

Worse then the enviromental concerns disturbing War Graves?
Is the fact of pre-Nuclear Steel.
All Steel made today contains radioactive particals
from all the past testing.

Make Steel today?
It's got radioacive stuff in it from the air.

All the Ships and such sunk dureing the War
that were built prior to testing of Atomic weapons
are now, and will become even more, in demand.

Back in 1995 there was stated intent to raise 300 German U-Boats
just for the Steel.

Although it was never done as I recall.

Jimbuna 01-30-09 11:04 AM

Who will pick up the tab/bill.....Norway or will it be a joint financial package? :hmmm:

Reece 01-30-09 07:41 PM

Seem that only the rear of the sub will be raised::hmmm:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=OUy0laGmLTQ

miner1436 01-30-09 11:52 PM

What will they do with it after it is raised?

Jimbuna 01-31-09 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece
Seem that only the rear of the sub will be raised::hmmm:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=OUy0laGmLTQ

Those animated clips always make it look so easy :hmmm:

saltysplash 02-04-09 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly
Quote:

Originally Posted by danurve
Well I wouldn't want poison in my water supply or food chain, and it looks as if the decision has been made yes? I am worried that any goofy liberal government or organization will see this as a precedent to be able to raise any war grave out of possible concern for the environment.

At the cost mentioned by Seth I doubt it
During various research hunts have read more than one diving site
A few times has been mentioned that parts of boats have been stripped by souvenir hunters inc those designated war graves
A lot of sites out there to protect

I doubt there are many wrecks out there with such a timebomb as U 864 carried and as close to a coastline


Heres one, although there does seem to be confusion as to how much ordnance is still aboard

http://www.submerged.co.uk/montgomery.php

http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/montgom...003_survey.pdf

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A22716759

http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/ops-row...nal_report.pdf

Nedlam 02-05-09 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Einzelganger
Even with it being a wargrave i don't see why it couldn't be treated with respect. Any remains found onboard could either be laid to rest somewhere ashore or perhaps be given a new burial at sea somehow, somewhere.

I doubt very much there are any human remains left. Nature and especially the sea has a strange way of taking everything back. A simple memorial plaque on the sea floor where the remains of the sub once was would probably suffice.


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