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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

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Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Doesn't matter who gets in the oval office. They are put there by the power elite, and if we think change will happen, it is only an illusion.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05277695921912

Scroll down the page to the quotes on the Federal Reserve.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Wo...appy_man....22

This was well known about before it was even enacted, and long after it was entrenched.

Corruption cares not whether it is part of government or private enterprise. I see your quote against the Fed and raise you one with two anti-private banking quotes. Note that they were not against private banks, but against giving those banks the power to issue new currency. That power properly belongs to the government, as subject to abuse as that can be.

- "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
Thomas Jefferson

- "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance."
James Madison

Two to one, government surges into the lead!

Government isn't inherently bad. Private enterprise isn't inherently bad. Evil is bad and it can and does reside anywhere it chooses. But in order to fight it you must first admit that it exists and fight evil, not the outward forms in which it manifests itself.

Exactly. The founders did everything they could think of to keep what we have from happenning. It wasn't foolproof enough to keep the corrupt and powerful money men and those they corrupt in office from doing the unthinkable. And if you look at how the Federal Reserve Act was passed, it was an abomination of our sytem of law making. They waited until most of the congressmen, and representatives were on holiday break for christmas, if I remember correctly.

And no, private banks should not have the issuing power of money either.

Article I Section VIII of the Constitution states:

The congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts, and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States:
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To "coin" money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures.

It mentions nothing of private banks or government banks. The Treasury Dept. should be the one who makes the coin, not the privately held Federal Reserve. This is then distibuted from the Treasury, to the private banks as a uniform coin throughout the United States. Or else we run into the same problem before with state treasuries making coin and paper money, but not being recognised at the face value by a different state.

But with having Federal Reserves in something like 5 or 6 states IIRC, the Treasury Department could take these over, and issue real coin, or valued money with proper backing to it so that you are not using a fiat currency where the value is thought up out of thin air, that the congress has to borrow from a private entity, then owes that parasitic entity interest above the fake value and enslaves the people of a nation and rapes it in the process.

It never made sense to me why congress who has the power to coin our money at no interest what-so-ever, would turn around and give it to a few power hungry men world wide, then have to borrow that money from them, and pay interest to them in the process.