I do nothing but test. Swdw, LukeFF, Observer, Peto are the main apple scrapples. Skwajer S3D editor brought to them for ease of making things work. Mix these guys up with Lurker's, Kriller's or W_Clear's work. Throw in Fred's 4 million MB of music for the gramaphone and you have one hell of a sim. I can not forget the modder who makes the smallest mod that sometimes speaks the loudest to the community....this Bud(or beer of your choice) is for you. The Modder!

I kinda wish we had a mod that'd let you chase gun crews away from their mount with your AA guns...

...what? Turnabout is fair play!

No, you get old, moldy mattresses, electric motors that catch fire, and fuel tanks that leak worse than the Exxon Valdez! :smug:

Since AVG and others have already said what I wanted to write, I'll just add this:

From the interrogation report of U-841.

Every time i start a patrol i'll fire a few rounds in the direction of the first sunlight i see , for Dave .
I started doing it when he past away and still do .

Otherwise i may consider to use the deckgun to finish the suffering of a heavely crippled NON armed ship when i'm way out of costal waters .
I see the deckgun as a defensive weapon and prefer it on my afterdeck .

Oh come on! Every American unit that ever existed had a good 'scrounger' on board, somebody who could go ashore anywhere and come back with whatever was needed. Just go steal one!

Or was that just in the movies?
:rotfl:

Yeah, I pretty much just use it for entertaining the crew whenever a sampan or junk pops up. Even then it takes about 25 shells to sink one of those suckers so not really worth the time/effort.

Nope! Jimmy Dolittle had his man who could "find" things for Jimmy. I think everyone had the guy who could "find" things:D

It is funny to read all of the "Captain's" comments on the use of deck guns, because similar comments were made by actual "Captain's" in WWII.

During Wahoo's 5th or 6th patrol, "Mush" Morton used a deck gun to sink a ship that he felt "unworthy" of a torpedo. When he filed his report, Lockwood sent a memo to all Fleet Boats, encouraging the use of deck guns and used "Mush's" report as an example of aggressive use.

The general feelings of actual Captain's varied between using the deck gun on unarmed ships being OK, to "hanging laundary" as being the best use for the gun. Some Captain's even threatened to "dump" the gun overboard once they left Pearl. Don't know if anyone did, though. It was generally felt that having a gun battle against an "armed" opponent was too risky for a sub, as 1 hit could cause catastrophic damage.

When O'Kane was outfitting the "Tang", the builder's at Mare Island were to install the deck gun on the bow side of the conning tower. O'Kane wanted the DG installed on the stern, because he felt the best use for the gun would be when running from an armed ship when he was unable to submerge. For some reason, this desire to mount the DG on the stern never materialized and he received a bow mounted gun.

Source: The Bravest Man, William Touhy, ISBN 9780891418894

i use it when im out of torps and i come across 1 or 2 lone merchants (cept one time one of the merchants had a gun in december of 1941!!) and if you hit it below the waterline (the round still travels underwater but slowly and not for long) you can sink em pretty fast.

This is interesting light of the facts that some of the biggest WWI ace's used the deck gun almost exclusively for most of their kills.

I cant imagine that ships were easier to sink back then, or the subs any better gun platforms.:lol:

i would think if that were the case it was because ww1 merchant ships were generally unarmed and not as well built as during ww2 when they had better stronger steel.

i would imagine back then a few shells would split the seems open and unzip those rivets without too much effort.

And they generally weren't too concerned about planes :hmm:.

It's also only partly true. They would stop the ship, allow the crew to depart in lifeboats, and then sink the ship by opening the sea cocks, laying scuttling charges and then using a few rounds from the deck gun. The British development of the Q-ship made that much more dangerous, and by the end of the war most of them were using torpedoes.

So it's a lot easier to sink a ship with the gun when it's already open to the sea, and when there is no crew on board to make repairs and fight fires.

I'm also delighted to report that www.uboat.net 's article on Lothar von Arauld de la Perriere has been updated to reflect the fact that his use of only four torpedoes was not throughout his entire career, but only during one patrol. Still an amazing accomplishment, but not quite the myth it seems to have become.

Just found another one for you all. It's a liberty ship and was registered at 7176 tons, sure, but after a torpedo destroyed her stern it still took 99 rounds from the deck gun to finish her off.
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/3001.html

More on rates of fire:
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/739.html

Twenty-eight rounds in sixteen minutes is an average of 1.75 rounds per minute, or one every 34 seconds.

I also have to wonder who the mystery ship was who evaded four torpedoes and got away.

AARRRGGGGG !!!!!!!!
BILGEWATER I SAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my 2 highest paid and most decorated men are my deck gun crew.
last night in a 4/2 porpoise boat we took out an entire convoy over a 2 day long battle.
4 DDs
2 lg tanker
2 lg freighters
3 med freighters
med tanker
sm tanker

I #@$* swear and rely on my deckgun. Keep in mind I carry few torps on this ond but faithful friend.

So when you talk about my deck gun,,,,,, your messing with me !!!!!!:arrgh!:

Install RFB and you will be singing a different tune I assure you. :|\\

Hell they dont even abandon their guns as the ship is sinking and listing at 45 degrees.

I swear I would never dream of criticizing your deck gun. Neither its size nor its performance. What you do with your deck gun is your business and nobody else's. I may disagree with your deck gun, but I'll defend to the death your right to shoot it.

No you don't get in a Fleet Boat! Why wait do it now!

Happy Hunting!