IA! IA! CTHULHU F'THAGN! :rotfl:

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Welcome abord SS107.9Mhz!

A good "logical" and "rational" explanation. I would propose however that to use rationality and logic to prove rationality and logic is, well, irrational and illogical.:D

Just kidding, this discussion could go on forever and all we would do is to speak in circles. You're certainly entitled to your opinion/faith (or lack thereof) as am I.

And a hearty welcome aboard to Great Old One Cthulhu:arrgh!:

I think I went to highschool with him....

Hehe, thats certainly got a ring of truth to it. However I only try to say that it does
not make sense to deny our rationality. Not to deny some thing is certainly not to
prove it.

Hows that for a paradox? ;)

Google is your friend.

Well, since the whole religious/metaphysical discussion has grown cold, how about a serious (not intending the previous discussion wasn't!) debate about what the hell this article means!
The other day I was watchingin a doc on TV , and at one point they said that even though black holes devoured all matter, simultaneously they we're "ejecting" subatomic particles, although very slowly, thus losing some of it's mass... Is it the same phenomenon here?

Oh and unfortunately turns out FSM wasn't the one in the foto, since is in germany visiting some relatives www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL7FcvEydqg

I'm not quite sure what you are referring to here, but I will take a guess...
Black holes do eject gravitons (if they exist; we are waiting on the LHC for that
one), but gravitons must be massless to fit in to our theories so far.
Perhaps I am off track there and thee is another ejection, although I don't see how
anything of mass can escape the >0 mass event horizon.

But that is not what is happening in the formation mentioned in the article.

In the article there is a black hole surrounded by a dense cloud of gas. As the
hole sucks in the gas it excites pockets of particles like bubbles of steam in a
boiling kettle. Because the excited pockets are less dense than the surrounding
gas cloud they move away from the black hole. They can move away from the
hole because they are no where near their event horizon(s).
As they rush away from the hole they leave a trail of gas in their wake. These
thin trails would normally diffuse into the surrounding gas and space as they
moved back towards the hole, however they are held in place by a weak
magnetic field as it takes more energy for the charged particles in the gas
strands to move through changes in a magnetic field than it does for them to
move through space with out a magnetic field.

*edit* Err....I'm just repeating the article in the way I find easiest to understand here.

Okay, thank you Letum, I should've read the article more thouroughly, I was actually thinking about Hawking's radiation (the whole thing about subatomic particles ejecting from the blackhole itself, until it actually evaporates or "uncolapses" itself eventually), and it seems the article was talking about matter ejected in the regions adjacent to the black hole (in't that also refered to cosmic dragon or something of sorts?), not on the event horizon itself... So what we have here is a tenuous magnetic field isolating these filaments of cooled down matter (gas) from the accelarated heated cluster gas... but shouldn't the stringss actually be denser than their cluster gas counterpart?

The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

Yeah, I must agree with SS107. We need to keep Cthulhu...

http://deadcantrant.com/wp-content/u...thulhu_big.jpg

And Yog-Sothoth (whose name can revive the dead):

http://images.epilogue.net/users/meg...og-sothoth.jpg

And Father Dagon and Mother Hydra:

http://paratime.ca/v_and_v/pics/deepone.jpg

And of course, the Shoggoths:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...h_by_pahko.jpg

And finally, the Yithians:

http://members.shaw.ca/csstrowbridge...ha/Yithian.jpg

Ya na kadishtu nilgh'ri stell'bsna Nyogtha,
K'yarnak phlegethor l'ebumna syha'h n'ghft,
Ya hai kadishtu ep r'luh-eeh Nyogtha eeh,
S'uhn-ngh athg li'hee orr'e syha'h. Ia Cthulhu F'htagn!
Ia Cthulhu F'htagn!
Ia Cthulhu F'htagn!
Ia Cthulhu F'htagn!
Ia Cthulhu F'htagn! Phnglui Mglwnafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgah Nagl F'htagn! Na'ghimgor thdid lym.
Myn th'x barsoom lu'gndar.
In'path gix mth'nabor.
In'path nox vel'dekk.
Yig sudeth M'cylorum.
M'xxlit kraddath Soggoth im'betnk.
Nog s'dath blexmed! Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li! Y'AI'NG'NGAHYOG-SOTHOTHH'EE-L'GEB F'AI TRHODOG UAAAAH

I havn't seen those guys since last family reunion! oh memores memories....:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Hey Stealth Hunter, where did you get that Shoggoths pick?

We are on the brink of new discoveries.
Hubble gets an overhaul, and then comes this:

http://www.esa.int/esapub/bulletin/b...128b_crone.pdf

Can't wait.:rock:

read this http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScien...ityofWrong.htm

Interesting propositions, for sure. Surely we are moving forwards in our knowledge. But where are we on the scale? How far are we from being correct? We don't know the answers to those questions because we can't even fathom the scale. Using the shape of the earth was a bad example, granted. Perhaps I should have used our knowledge of the Universe or our knowledge of the workings of our own bodies.

Google'd "Shoggoth".

You might also want to check out the musical "A Shoggoth on the Roof":

http://www.cthulhulives.org/shoggoth/

http://www.cthulhulives.org/shoggoth/ShoggothPoster.jpg

All I can say to many of those that have posted. One game:

Eternal Darkness

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rkness_box.jpg

This game was less about shock horror, and more about Universal doom. You have the ability to stop it, but since it is multi-dimensional, you had to play it 4 times to truly beat it! :p:D

Intermediate on the action side, but very high on the emotional side this game was! You must stop the Cthulhu.

-S

No It can't be true! Does this mean that the Great Keg in the Sky isn't a real God? What about the Vast Heavenly Still?

My money is on the Invisible Pink Unicorn.