"It won't hurt at all. Just go to sleep. When you wake up, you will feel nothing at all" ~ Invasion of the Body Snatchers

"Resistance is Futile" ~ The Borg.











Just a joke Guys. Relax. :|\\





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Having personally been the victim of these attacks simply because I like to discuss and analyze how game engines work, I will sign and say that I am tired of having been bullied and driven out of participating on www.subsim.com.

Furthermore, I will say that my dissappointment is not only with the bullies, but with www.subsim.com itself. I have personally written to Neal about this matter, but received no response. I will hope this means that he and other moderators are simply too busy to have responded to my mail. However, I fear that what it really means is that the bullies' mods generate so much site traffic that it would be bad business to require that they behave in a civil manner to the low profile and meek members such as myself. Better to let them wipe their feet on people such as myself than risk having them go offsite and open their own separate Web distribution and discussion home.

Oh, well ... (but I sign anyway as a matter of principle)

errr?:hmm:

yah ima gunna sigh that too, i guess.:up: :up:

IX for life an evrithing havin a IX cant be ALL that bad, eh?

Put ANGEL BOB on tha list, will ya mate.

First off great comments, I sign.

And to Skywasjer, yes the "one star Punk" is making his rounds in all forums because he isn't man enough to comment, even if he disagrees. This has been discussed before in a different forum, and he is one that would never sign, and he feels that will continue the bickering without making any comment or showing his name. Grow up "One Star" if you have something to stay, stand up and be heard!!

Peabody

Perhaps playing games brings out the child in all of us and that child naturally carries over into the forum when talking about the game. I know it has for me from time to time.

I pledge to be less of a jerk...starting now :stare:

Honestly, I will say this - not only should we not complain, but we should feel blessed that in the last 3 years we got two Silent Hunter games, one add-on and a million mods to rule them all :D

I'm personally overjoyed that U-boats are coming in greater force to SHIV (thanks devs, lurker, mikhayl and many others)! I don't have time to enjoy them right now, but this is fantastic news all the same.

I can only imagine a new person buying the game, finding Subsim, looking at all the old time posters - with thousands of posts - thinking, 'what a bunch of a$$holes'!

Well, I want to start being constructive not destructive, so count me in.

Arrrrrrr Matey an a pint 'o grog to wash it down with!:arrgh!:

I have no idea why Neal has not replied to you -probably because he is too busy with lots of things, including real life- but you can be SURE that there is no preferential treatment or additional tolerance to anyone here at subsim.com just because he has done a mod that "generates more traffic" :nope: Subsim was here before all those supermods and modders, and will be here -if God allows- when all those mods are a long forgotten thing.

Moderators might want to hold the trigger sometimes because we do not like to act as a Gestapo, and ultimately we prefer to allow some discussions that go around the limit line rather than managing this as a Kindergarten., But anytime you have a complaint about a specific action of another member that you think has crossed the line, you can contact a moderator per PM and you will for sure get a reply. Sadly Neal can't reply to all the mails and PMs he received, but moderators will try their best, be sure :yep:

And a hearty aye (and amen) here, too.:up:

Life's too short to waste time bickering (although I do occasionally love a good argument:oops:,guess I shoulda been a lawyer)

Peace out, y'all.:sunny:

I think you have very precisely described the transformation which has happened in certain forums over the last year or so. Behavior is no longer evaluated in a disconnected and objective fashion. Instead various teams now have license to bully those who thet consider to not provide adequate praise and promotion of their particular mod.

It is indeed a sad day, since open discourse has suffered and this has reflected badly on both the site and the moderators. If not for the fact that someone pointed this thread out to me (who has also been stomped on in a preferential fashion), I would have simply given up this issue and the ethics of the site already.

Thanks.

Certainly ....... re: post #1 etc.

Happy Hunting!

Art

Hey to all,

I am very new to modding SH4, I have in the past "tinkered" with CIV I, II, III, and IV; Morrrowind, Oblivion, Freelancer, Galciv I and II, MOO I, II and III, B17, Falcon 4.0, Mech Warrior II, III and IV, Sea Dogs, Cut Throats and Pirates.

I have worked many years in graphic art and my knowledge of modding is very limited (I basically do graphics/textures {would like to learn more :know: }).

I have played Silent Service I and II as well as SH1 and 2 (never quite got around to getting 3).

I came here to subsim because I saw so very many talented people adding real value to what started out as an "OK" game.

Please "be excellent, to one another"

Making the world a more pleasant place... one forum post at a time.:cool:

Count me in shipmates...:up:

i must have really miss something,but i hate to see subsim go down this path so h*ll yes i'll sign

Aye. I'll sign 'yer chit. Now get this diaper off my head.

Respectfully Submitted;
CDR Resser

Markshot,

You have a PM from me in the works. Standby :D

Original post gets an 'Oh Hell Yeah!' from Captain Vlad.

I'll drink to that:arrgh!: