HMS Ocean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ocean_(L12)

4 Bay class landing ship dock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_cla...ding_ship_dock

2 Albion class landing platform dock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion_..._platform_dock

6 Point class sealift ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_class

I'd watch the war, sure, but your words are kind of harsh. Having a bad day? I'll let it slide since that is probably the case.

-S

Except for the fact of the British citizens down living in the Falkands, I doubt they want to leave. That was one of the main reasons, along with national pride we went back to take them back. I don't think people over here have the right to decide what happens to them, the Falkland's are ours, and no amount of Argie rhetoric is going to chance that.

Actually subman I'd disagree with you on that. The Tornadoes have a much better A2A radar infact the Foxhunter radar is a very good A2A radar given that it has been upgraded and optimised for just that. They would intercept the Mirages way out and shoot them in the teeth before they get to visual range. Even then I'd bet on the RAF.

I guess a good AMRAAM does the trick, no matter the aircraft firing it, so you are probably right.

-S

Just hope they don't get into a BFM situation the F3 is pretty poor the Mirages would fly circles around them.

Yup, this is a routine claim Argentina makes on every aniversary of the war. They do the same at the UN on other dates.

Ive actually been having a great day. I baked a sausage and egg pie earlier. Seriously, you ask any of the other Grey Wolves they will tell you that Christmas in my house I was the chief baker of things Christmassy! :D

At the end of the day... I ask a valid question of you the thread creator, nothing more. Following the original post by you, yourself and a few others here have sat and talked strategy, who has what, and what is good and what isn't and so forth. Rather than talking of how it could be avoided, no... straight to who has what planes and ships. If that doesn't read like people looking specifically for something to happen... I don't know what does.

I don't feel I was harsh at all. :yep: Maybe it was in as much my questions were directed at you only.

If this war were to happen. NO CONTEST. i'll be eating fish&chips and washing it down with Guiness in Argentina within a month. :D

lol, its a vicious cycle ain't it! ;)

I couldn't say it any better myself! :D And I find this 'not talking' about a possible conflict, especially when there is a bit of sabre rattling going on, because it might make it happen type mentallity, is absurd! We are on a war based forum for gods sake! :D

Funny

-S

Guinness, that most British of drinks ;)

Im sure it can get boring down there.:rotfl:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HfIpBFEXXfk

Ms Wolf - In all honesty, you are probably a bit right, but keep in mind that this is SUBSIM, a site whose enthusiasts are interested in that end of things. If you wanted prevention, maybe there is a DIPLOMACYSIM site somewhere (only slightly joking) where the members consider a stiff diplomatic note exciting. Wrong audience, I guess.

BTW, the pie sounds yummy!

Not side track the thread....the sausage and egg pie....recipe? :D

A huge oil field was recently discovered near the Falklands. Something in the size that could provide billions of barrels. My guess is it would be in the UKs interest to defend their discovery. And I would assume this is something the Argies would love to exploit since their economy is in shambles.

Oh really? That makes more sense. The Argies have had their economy in shambles for some time too.

Usually, countries don't make statements like Argentina did without a goal in mind that involves action. THings may heat up soon I would guess.

-S

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6571431.stm

I see the statement as something that every premier of Argentina has to rattle off at some point, every country has a few sacred cows.

That is because the will of the people will that Argentina do somethign about it at some point. Same problem with China and Taiwan. Things will heat up in both places at some time. It is unavoidable unless some mutually beneficial agreement can be reached. THe Falklands only way out of a future conflict may rest in sharing oil profits with Argentina now. ANy other way and Argentineans will feel angry and left out.

-S

As they have for the past 180 years. I can hear their doctor from here: "Take 200 mg of Suckitup and call me in the morning."

Spain is still pissed about Gibralter. Ireland still wants the northern bits. And Japan is still fretting over the Kurils. The Afghan parliament has rejected the Duran Line and claims most of northern Pakistan. Spain and Morocco have got half a dozen territorial bunfights in the works. Canada and Denmark are bickering over Hans Island. The Yanks aren't happy about the boundary in the Juan de Fuca Strait (those damned aggressive Canadians again). You could fill a small library with details on disputed territories and most have not wound up smelling of cordite. Just because there is a dispute does not mean there is going to be a war.

Historically, those nations that started wars in recent times generally did not wind up profiting from them; with the exceptions of some utter whackos like Kim, that lesson has generally filtered down to the national level at least.

Moreover, land claims don't usually carry much weight in law centuries latter. Few nations would want them to, frankly. There are too many skeletons in just about everybody's closet.

The best option for the Falklands, I think, is for London to ask the UN to run a self-determination referendum with suffrage restricted to established residents. Make a big deal of it - international observers, full media coverage, the works. It's a no-brainer as to results and would make it much harder for some future Argentine govt to lay claim when the UN has formally nodded in Britain's direction.