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AVGWarhawk 03-14-08 07:53 AM
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As many dogs as I have seen in my family, and it has been plenty as my mother bred pugs for show and is a AKC judge, she always was in the thought that as long as the dog is comfortable and not in pain with a problems such as Niki has, let it be. One pug in particular had a mass growing on her leg and chest area. Could do nothing about it. She let the dog be and we kept her comfortable fat and happy until there was evidence of pain and discomfort. Niki should be handled the same way. If the little guy seems to be ok and making it around without much issue, let him be. Make him comfortable and let him enjoy what he can. When the day comes were he is in pain or life is just miserable with his cancer, then euthanasia is the one best possible thing you can do for Niki. Although the thought of euthanasia sucks, it is a avenue you can take to relieve Niki of any pain that you or the vet can not do anything about. Sorry to hear of his ailment and yes, these little guys get to be your best friend and a family member. They all have a personality of their own for sure.
The vet thinks (as do I) that the tumor is pushing on his trachia (sp). At times he sounds like he has a smokers cough. He's lost 5 pounds in his weight, which normally, that would be great, as he is a " little pudgy". But he still is active I guess, when its time to go outside, he's ready to go. It's a tough call, because he doesn't seem too miserable. The last month though, I have become very concerned for him.
That is the thing, Niki is still active, goes outside. He experiences some discomfort every now and then from the sound of it. By your description he sounds somewhat ok with exception of the growth making him cough. Keep him comfortable and happy. He will tell you when things are not so great. Dogs have a way of doing that. It is a crappy situation no doubt. Do the best you can because that is all anyone can ask of you, even Niki.

nikimcbee 03-14-08 08:20 AM
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As many dogs as I have seen in my family, and it has been plenty as my mother bred pugs for show and is a AKC judge, she always was in the thought that as long as the dog is comfortable and not in pain with a problems such as Niki has, let it be. One pug in particular had a mass growing on her leg and chest area. Could do nothing about it. She let the dog be and we kept her comfortable fat and happy until there was evidence of pain and discomfort. Niki should be handled the same way. If the little guy seems to be ok and making it around without much issue, let him be. Make him comfortable and let him enjoy what he can. When the day comes were he is in pain or life is just miserable with his cancer, then euthanasia is the one best possible thing you can do for Niki. Although the thought of euthanasia sucks, it is a avenue you can take to relieve Niki of any pain that you or the vet can not do anything about. Sorry to hear of his ailment and yes, these little guys get to be your best friend and a family member. They all have a personality of their own for sure.
The vet thinks (as do I) that the tumor is pushing on his trachia (sp). At times he sounds like he has a smokers cough. He's lost 5 pounds in his weight, which normally, that would be great, as he is a " little pudgy". But he still is active I guess, when its time to go outside, he's ready to go. It's a tough call, because he doesn't seem too miserable. The last month though, I have become very concerned for him.
That is the thing, Niki is still active, goes outside. He experiences some discomfort every now and then from the sound of it. By your description he sounds somewhat ok with exception of the growth making him cough. Keep him comfortable and happy. He will tell you when things are not so great. Dogs have a way of doing that. It is a crappy situation no doubt. Do the best you can because that is all anyone can ask of you, even Niki.
It's been kinda hard to watch him grow old. ...watching the black fur turn grey, his eyesite fade, etc.

Kapitan_Phillips 03-14-08 08:45 AM
I'm so sorry :cry:

I agree with everyone else, let him enjoy what he can whilst he's not in pain, then set him free so he can pass the torch :yep:

AVGWarhawk 03-14-08 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nikimcbee
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
As many dogs as I have seen in my family, and it has been plenty as my mother bred pugs for show and is a AKC judge, she always was in the thought that as long as the dog is comfortable and not in pain with a problems such as Niki has, let it be. One pug in particular had a mass growing on her leg and chest area. Could do nothing about it. She let the dog be and we kept her comfortable fat and happy until there was evidence of pain and discomfort. Niki should be handled the same way. If the little guy seems to be ok and making it around without much issue, let him be. Make him comfortable and let him enjoy what he can. When the day comes were he is in pain or life is just miserable with his cancer, then euthanasia is the one best possible thing you can do for Niki. Although the thought of euthanasia sucks, it is a avenue you can take to relieve Niki of any pain that you or the vet can not do anything about. Sorry to hear of his ailment and yes, these little guys get to be your best friend and a family member. They all have a personality of their own for sure.
The vet thinks (as do I) that the tumor is pushing on his trachia (sp). At times he sounds like he has a smokers cough. He's lost 5 pounds in his weight, which normally, that would be great, as he is a " little pudgy". But he still is active I guess, when its time to go outside, he's ready to go. It's a tough call, because he doesn't seem too miserable. The last month though, I have become very concerned for him.
That is the thing, Niki is still active, goes outside. He experiences some discomfort every now and then from the sound of it. By your description he sounds somewhat ok with exception of the growth making him cough. Keep him comfortable and happy. He will tell you when things are not so great. Dogs have a way of doing that. It is a crappy situation no doubt. Do the best you can because that is all anyone can ask of you, even Niki.
It's been kinda hard to watch him grow old. ...watching the black fur turn grey, his eyesite fade, etc.
What can I say, this is part of life. It does not mean you have to like it or accept it. You just need to acknowlege that it happens. I'm watching my 73 year old dad fall apart. He takes more medication then the drug store has to offer. Three heart attacks and one congestive heart failure. Now, his liver is failing. You expect these things with age I guess. Same with Niki, up in age, ailments to follow. It does not make it better but you can take comfort in fact Niki lived a long life. I take comfort in the fact my Dad made 73 and still ticking after this many heart problems. He has traveled the world with my mom in his retirement. It is the lives that get cut short that throw you for a loop.

Konovalov 03-14-08 09:01 AM
I'm so sorry to hear the bad news concering your close mate and compaion Niki. :down:

Been a dog lover all my life and we have always had dogs in the family. I have two back home in Australia, a female Dalmation named Ali and an Aussie Blue Heeler cattle dog named zack who run around a huge property.

Only you with the aid of the vets advice can make the call as to when your buddies quality of life has past that point when it is time for him to go to that better place called doggy paradise. It's darn obvious how much you love him and have looked after him so your judgement will be right. Stay strong. :yep:

HunterICX 03-14-08 09:02 AM
Sad news indeed,

we lost our german shepard to a tumor as wel more then a year ago, the last days where just too painfull. but you will know when the time is right and give him his earned eternal rest.

be strong Nikimcbee

HunterICX

Sailor Steve 03-14-08 10:27 AM
J, I've lost a few wolfie friends myself over the years, and I still remember them all fondly. I can't add anything to what anyone else has said, but I'll have you two in my thoughts.

@ AVHWarhawk: I really feel your pain. My dad has managed to make 80, and is in good health, but he has Parkinson's disease. It's not the illness that's bad in this case, it's the cure. My sister says that some days he goes out and plays golf, and others he doesn't remember who he is. It's only a matter of time, and I can't even be there. I do call him as often as I can, though.

AVGWarhawk 03-14-08 12:25 PM
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@ AVHWarhawk: I really feel your pain. My dad has managed to make 80, and is in good health, but he has Parkinson's disease. It's not the illness that's bad in this case, it's the cure. My sister says that some days he goes out and plays golf, and others he doesn't remember who he is. It's only a matter of time, and I can't even be there. I do call him as often as I can, though.
At this age, you expect things like this. So it is not as upsetting. My wifes parents died at age 50(mom) and age 54(dad) from cancer. These are the ones that throw for the loop.

I'm sure Niki is in good hands and the right decisions will be made. Besides, he will the coolest doggie in Doggie Paradise....what other Boston Terrier can claim to manning a tank or come face to face with rock crabs?

Zayphod 03-14-08 12:56 PM
Not just this family, but any family. Dogs are family, period, and it breaks one's heart to see this thing happen.

My sympathy to you, sir, as one dog lover to another.

Steel_Tomb 03-14-08 01:06 PM
Sorry to hear that, I hope it has a nice afterlife in doggy heaven!:yep:


What makes me so angry though, is that when a dog is suffering, you can put it to sleep so it passes away peacefully. When it comes to an human being however, even though they're suffering... you can't let them pass away. Wheres the humanity in that? Surely, if its ok for a dog, it should be equally suitable to end a persons suffering?:damn:

mrbeast 03-14-08 01:26 PM
I'm very sad to hear this news.

We've had many dogs in our family and every one was a much loved character like Nikimcbee. Its sad to see them go but I always console myself with the fact that I know that they were all loved, looked after, had a good home and most important of all were part of a family.

Takeda Shingen 03-14-08 02:51 PM
This is truly sad news. I had to make a similar decision with my beagle, Dexter, several years ago. You have my most sincere sympathy.

Linton 03-14-08 04:33 PM
The only replacement for a dog is another dog.Get a puppy,have you tried an English Cocker Spaniel?http://www.dogstuff.info/cocker_span...s/image003.jpg

SUBMAN1 03-14-08 04:39 PM
:cry::cry:

CCIP 03-14-08 07:10 PM
I was dreading this too. Niki is definitely a true subsim character, and while I don't mean to diminish the human loss in these latter too, the bad news we got about him is now next to the bad news we got about Dave and Abraham in the last year :(

He's got character. I really hope he can indicate to you himself what is best for him next. I too would lean toward letting nature take its course, as long as he's relatively comfortable and isn't suffering. Very sad either way.

Jimbuna 03-14-08 08:30 PM
I'm finding it difficult to find the words to express how devastated I am for Niki and you.

My thoughts and prayers are for you both at this difficult time :cry:

JSLTIGER 03-14-08 09:08 PM
I feel your pain, having gone through a similar situation a few days before X-mas '06. My dog (see pic below) was diagnosed with cancer in her leg after we'd noticed her limping for a week. The vet had initially said that it was just hip displaysia, but it turned out that she was limping because the cancer had destroyed her bones. It's an incredibly tough thing to live through, and an incredibly hard decision to make. I still miss her like crazy having grown up with her from the time that I was 9 until I was 20. One can only understand exactly what you're feeling if they've been through it themselves. It's an incredibly heart-wrenching situation. I do not envy your position.

Sandy (June 24, 1995-December 21, 2006):
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nikimcbee 03-15-08 12:49 AM
Again, I just want to thank you guys for the kind thoughts and words. It really helped last night, as I work in a lab and there was nothing going on. I had plenty of time to think about the situation. I decided to put an extra emphsis on enjoying our time together and not just "giving up." I've kinda been through this before when my grand parents passed away. The big difference was I didn't see the change on a daily basis. It was very painful for my extended family as the alzheimers ran its course and my grandma eventually recogonized nobody.:cry:

When I got home from work, I found myself scratching his head a little longer than usual. I decided not to worry about a timeline and I figure Niki will let me know when its time to go. Until then, the tumor doesn't exist and isn't going to interrupt our time together.

Stealth Hunter 03-15-08 01:21 AM
I'm so sorry to hear that, mate.:(

kiwi_2005 03-15-08 05:16 AM
Not good to hear about your dog man.

What Linton said when your ready to get another dog the English Cocker Spaniel is a good choice, neighbour has one everytime im over there i can't help but pick it up and give it a big hug.:oops: But yeah nothing will replace your dog but having another will help.


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