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Yeah I noticed not many shadows too. But foam is something that seems to not be too present.
I had done a couple of screenshot enhancements and did a before and after, and there are no real shadows and no foam. I had added some shadow under the crewmen a little. Enhanced 1 Stockshot_1 And Enhanced_2 Stockshot_2 Kind of my ideal of how some of the graphics could improve, nice as they are now. I don't imagine that the current game engine could handle things like dynamic shadowing now, but it'd be great to see the franchise continued long enough to see them eventually implemented. |
It`s a pity this excellent game but without properly shadows , in my opinion ,the fake shadows of this SH4 game ,decrease the visual quality and the look , I dont understand why the developers have choosen this fake (grainy) shadows to SH4, look this screen shots of a tank simulator WWII Battle Tanks: T-34 vs Tiger (I) to see the nice look of the more normal shadows
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Shadows
There are shadows in the game, check your settings.
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I think the idea that SH4 does not render clear shadows is more the issue, not that it does not have dark and light. My ideas about seeing the world include more aspects of subtlty than will likely ever be addressed it the game (though that would be great).
I had found another pic of better foam from real life through. If I can find a shot worth the idea I am thinking of I will try implementing better shadows as an enhancement to that. |
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hyperion2206, that is "T34 vs Tiger". Its run like a piece of ****. And loking like a **** too.
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At first there are different kinds of shadows.
One that the topic starter is missing are the so called "planar" or "dynamic" shadows. They are actualy missing. What you call "fake-shadows" is the simple specular shading effect. And then there are static shadows inside the boat. Since the lightsources inside never change, it is quite enough there. Those are realy "fake"-shadows. they are just raytraced... I think the reason why the game engine does not support dynamic shadowing is because it is slow. Drawing dynamic shadows means processing the image twice. It would quickly cut the framerate by half. Simple shading is waaay faster instead and it looks more natural then planar shadows. The most realistic looking shadows btw are soft planar shadows. But that would bring any power-gaming-machine to its knees. |
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Thank you very much for the answer ,very well explained , now I understand , implement the full shadows can kill the framerate , we must better forget the shadows |
Keep in mind also we are talking about a boat on the water. Water is more reflective than the ground so the shadow cannot be as crisply defined as ground and grass shadows. Does your tank game have moving grass? If it did, your ground shadows would not be as crisp. In addition to water being much more reflective, it's also constantly in motion. This whole idea that water shadows must by nature look like ground shadows is not realistic and may be the personal illusion of a land-lubber. It's a water game not a land game.
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So, our skilled 3D programmers :rock: managed to implement the transparent water (note that the image is processed twice) but in the 11 months of development, there wasn't enough time to also implement dynamic shadows (self shadowing). |
So the Dyn.Shadow-setting in Main.cfg is there for whatever the future may bring us?
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There is something in the code for dynamic shadows, but the feature wasn't completed. Maybe in the future.
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Thank you all for the answers , thank you very much :up:
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Can you see how ugly is the look of SH4 without dynamic shadows ,i understand SH4 is a naval simulator , but is also a outdoor simulator and without dynamic shadows sometimes seems to be a 20 years old game
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