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Myxale 03-08-08 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graf Paper
Aircraft carrying wasserbomben.:o
3000lb wasserbomben. :eek:

Yep, adding your name to list of modders that must die! :stare:

:rotfl:

hehe!:|\\

xristoskaiti 03-09-08 01:39 AM

VERY BIG STATEMENT ............


I have been careful that with small change of file AI SENSORS the
planes can see also Submerged u-boots.you can be worked with this
important trait????? with such change will become very realistic the game :hmm:

Albrecht Von Hesse 03-09-08 10:08 PM

aircraft ASW release
 
This is the initial release of the aircraft ASW mod. Not a lot got changed, and the changes themselves aren't drastic. But (hopefully!) this'll make encountering aircraft when you're on the surface a bit, umm . . . fun? :huh:

http://hosted.filefront.com/vonHesse/
AvH_Aircraft_ASW_v1.zip

msalama 03-10-08 02:14 AM

Pardon me for being a dumba$$ here, but this mod _does_ work w/ GWX2xx doesn't it? And no installing during a patrol, right?

On a more general note this mod sounds like it might indeed rock somewhat... somewhat BIG TIME that is :rock:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr 03-10-08 03:54 AM

holy smokes :o
sound fun in 1944 :arrgh!:

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr 03-10-08 04:12 AM

AWSOME!!!!!! :rock:

i just got bombed in that mission, you REALY have to use it with the LRT mod :rock::rock:
(some screeny's)

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b..._10738_243.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b..._10743_259.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...8_10752_25.jpg

just to let you know, i died :up:

Albrecht Von Hesse 03-10-08 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msalama
Pardon me for being a dumba$$ here, but this mod _does_ work w/ GWX2xx doesn't it? And no installing during a patrol, right?

On a more general note this mod sounds like it might indeed rock somewhat... somewhat BIG TIME that is :rock:

Ummm, not being a dumba$$ at all. My fault for not being more specific, actually. :oops:

It was made to work (and tested with) with GWX2. I doubt it will work for anything else, as it utilizes the additional aircraft from GWX2. And no installing in mid-patrol, no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr
AWSOME!!!!!! :rock:

i just got bombed in that mission, you REALY have to use it with the LRT mod :rock::rock:

I'm glad you like it. :)

I want to point out, though (giving credit where it is definitely due) that GWX2 does have quite a few of their aircraft already carrying air depth charges as their loadout. Really, all I did was a few minor tweaks to the bombs and air depth charge settings, and modified some of the aircraft to carry both bombs (for surface) and air depth charges (for submerged).

For example, the Catalina (with a 2,000 Kg ordnance weight) now carries two 500 Kg bombs and six air depth charges. What gets dropped on your head depends on where your U-boat is at the time of the bombing run: if you're on the surface you'll most likely get all eight dropped on you (which is hideous if they're at all close to you); if you're just diving usually one bomb and between two and four of the air depth charges drop; if you've submerged it seems to usually just be a couple of the air depth charges.

Thing is, this certainly gives you a very real reason not to diddle around on the surface when you have an incoming aircraft. If it's the wrong aircraft . . . you most likely won't live long enough to regret your mistake.

I've started modding the Mark 9, fast-sinking US depth charge. This is considerably more work and more involved, due to the nature of the depth charge files. But when I'm done, around 1942 (when they actually entered service) US destroyers and escorts will start carrying the Mark 9 fast-sinking depth charges. As they sink twice as fast as the standard depth charges . . . :huh: . . . again this should make for interesting times.

HundertzehnGustav 03-10-08 11:14 AM

hang him...:nope:
traitor...:nope:

:lol: :rotfl:

swuboo 03-10-08 02:18 PM

If memory serves, early war American planes used depth charges set to something like 150-200 meters, since that was believed to be the maximum depth a U-Boat could achieve given two minutes' warning. The policy was changed to 50 meters after researchers at RAND found that, in the aggregate, U-Boats were unlikely to have that much warning or crash dive with optimal efficiency. Reported kills went up dramatically.

Those numbers are ballparks from memory, and I don't know how accurate my source was (since it was not primarily concerned with naval warfare,) or when the shift might have taken place. The book in question is Wizards of Armageddon, by Fred Kaplan, about nuclear deployment policy in the early Cold War.

I can't find it at the moment, but if I manage to dig it up later today I'll give more specific figures---if we're lucky, Kaplan's bibliography might cite the RAND whitepapers in question.

Albrecht Von Hesse 03-10-08 03:40 PM

I'd mentioned above about getting caught on the surface being hideous. This was one of the test runs with the Catalina, with me doing flank speed on the surface:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...8_2205_843.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1..._22023_468.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1..._22039_765.jpg

I hate myself. :rotfl:

Albrecht Von Hesse 03-13-08 11:23 AM

ASW update
 
Additional aircraft have been modified for ASW loadouts. The campaign.scr file has been modified so that ASW patrols carry ASW loadouts.

All US DDs and DEs now carry the Mark 9 fast-sinking depth charges starting June 1943. British DDs and DEs start carrying the Mark VII heavy depth charges starting September 1942.

I hope to have this version released by March 22nd.

xristoskaiti 03-13-08 12:04 PM

exists also the command merge in order to they is compatible with
all Campaigns!!:lol:

Albrecht Von Hesse 03-14-08 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
Remember that the Mk X depth charge was considered something of a failure, since for all the added explosive tests showed that the kill radius was expanded from 25 feet to.....30 feet.

Also there was a great realistic depth charge mod a couple of years ago that reduced the kill radius from 25 meters to a more realistic 8 meters. It also had an optional six-foot-per-second sink rate that you could change out for late-war use, but the maker at that time couldn't make it upgrade automatically. Hopefully you can.

All the depth charges automatically upgrade; the US upgrades to the Mark 9 in June 1943, while the British upgrade to the Mark VII heavy in September 1942.

And the Mark 9, ummm . . . looks like a Mark 9, too. ;)

msalama 03-14-08 11:19 AM

Quote:

I hate myself. :rotfl:
:o

Blimey.

I'm a dead Kaleun w/ 40-odd hands lost altogether after this mod gets out, that's for sure :lol: S! m8, that's one rockin' piece of work you're doing there...

Fury of a Seraph 03-15-08 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albrecht Von Hesse
And the Mark 9, ummm . . . looks like a Mark 9, too. ;)

^_________________^
I say nothing.

Hey Albrecht looks like your next post is your 1k, unless it maxes at 999.

Lionman 08-14-08 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fury of a Seraph
Quote:

Originally Posted by Albrecht Von Hesse
And the Mark 9, ummm . . . looks like a Mark 9, too. ;)

^_________________^
I say nothing.

Hey Albrecht looks like your next post is your 1k, unless it maxes at 999.

OK OK I'll bite - what's the story behind your "Fury of a Seraph" pseudonym?
Uh Oh I just spotted "Battlestar Galactica Fan" so I'm guessing that it's something to do with that.

xristoskaiti 04-17-20 04:35 PM

Hello there is a link to this mod?:)

FUBAR295 04-17-20 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xristoskaiti (Post 2664015)
Hello there is a link to this mod?:)


Try this ...

http://www.mediafire.com/file/h1xk3sv7qvusfk9/Increased_ASW_a.zip/file

Good hunting,
FUBAR295

Aquelarrefox 04-18-20 12:33 AM

how this works with nygm? the sea-land where every thing hurts you. i dont remember reading nothing of deep dd deepcharges in nygm.

xristoskaiti 04-18-20 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUBAR295 (Post 2664043)
Try this ...

http://www.mediafire.com/file/h1xk3sv7qvusfk9/Increased_ASW_a.zip/file

Good hunting,
FUBAR295

:Kaleun_Cheers:thank you very much! this is!


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