Naaah, they'll be okay. Just go fast, and after the lil' surprisebut...boom, just blow ballast as soonest as possible.
And here you go! Your safely on surface!

Tho' your crew must change their underwears after doing this.

Oops :oops:

No prob friend.:D

Don't we have any spies ?:rotfl: Seems like the Allieds do and alot of planes too! And now minefields. :huh:

Good questiong, and I can give you the answer.

During the WW2 Germans did have spy "ring" on london, but their job was very hard because they had to keep on moving.
They were being tracked by british counter-spies all the time, and it took a lot of time and effort for the German spies to get their hands on Royal Naval Force's files.

You simply won't just walk up on their office, past the quards and officers, many securitycheck-ups, to the top-secret military files.

No, you have to take someone's personality, maybe high-ranking officer with an acces to the files. But first, you must get known of him, what are his daily routines, what does he like etc etc.
Until finally, you eliminate him, and take his place. But you think thats it? Oh boy, you'd be surprised!

Now that you have someone's personality, you must be very, VERY carefull where you go. There may be friends of the taken personality, and you must keep distance on them at all cost!

Just imagine a situation on a security checkpoint:

You walk on there, and when you give your securitycard (or whatever it was)
The man who check's your card may know the person who you act as.
And there we go: your busted. And probaly dead.


See my point?

Actually, from what I've read, all the German agents were turned by the Allies. They were supplied with low level, but accurate intelligence to build up their reputation, but when it came to D-Day, passed on some serious mis-information (Operation Fortitude) that the Allies were planning invasions of Norway and at the Pas De Calais (the latter helped by having the very fake 1st US Army Group commanded by the very real General Patton).

Cheers,
Stephen

Forget to mention that, but not all of them were turned or discovered.

It's actually sad that all the German spying effort is after all just throwing bricks on a brickwall. All the hard effort, wasted after all.

:o
since when are there space shuttles in WW2 ? (grid AN68)

Good Catch.:up: And I'm worried about seeing enemy mines. :doh:

Strangely i'm actually in this area and theres is no mines at least.
Only some crazy destroyers whitch absolutly wants kill me...

:-?

Kill the DD's, and keep looking.

And of course everyone ignores my so ah, long and smart written post where I put so much effort.

I feel left outside :cry:

Their there alright, I've found out the hard way.:damn:

Nemo

And you survived I presume, hmm?

Nope, that was another career in the dust bin. Crew couldn't contain the heavy flooding after hitting the mine. U-48 with it's Captain Gustav Mindt and crew rest at the bottom of the North Sea at 72 metres depth. But if you are asking if I personally survived then the answer I'm glad to say is yes.:D

Nemo

Were you submerged or surfaced?

Well, maby I don't understand everything or maby I was very lucky, but there is my way near the english coast and sorry but there is no mine on my way.
We are in the winter of 1940, all the night I were surfaced at 14 knots and everything was allright.

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3352/nopein4.jpg

In fact, I never encounter a mine in SH3...
:-?

Believe me, those mines are there and in far greater numbers than you suspect.

I once had a peek at the actual minefields as they are laid out in the GWX campaign.

The "Eastern Barrage" that runs down the coast of Britain looks like a nearly solid wall of mines that is several kilometers wide. :o

If you patrol in shallow waters after early 1941, your odds of hitting a mine somewhere between Britian and Gemany are pretty high, I'd say. :eek:

This minefield map is taken from the NYGM 'DeclaredMinefields' mod. I created it.

It's purpose was (and is) to enable players of NYGM to avoid the declared British minefields in 1940, and later during the so-called 'Inshore Campaign' of 1944-45.

The documentation, which should not have been detached from the map, states clearly that:
a) the map shows only *declared* defensive minefields around the British Isles. Offensive minefields were not declared, so naturally the Germans could not be sure where they were.
b) the marked maps on the zone are not strictly accurate, to allow for errors of navigation and drifting mines (mines that have broken free from their morrings).
c) The huge east-coast defensive mine barriers were last reinforced in 1942, and were 'probably' inactive by the end of 1944 (according to German thinking). Hence U-boats could cross the east-coast mine barrage submerged - but cautiously!

The minefields themselves were created by NYGM's Der Teddy Bar, originally for RUb (Real U-boat), but were subsequently used by NYGM and, evidently, by GWX.

Stiebler.

Next time when I see a ship inside that minefield zone, I wanna try and sink it. And see what happens when it hits the bottom.

New way to find mines, no need to run submerged anymore Firewall to find out where they are ;)


*Edit* I figured that making one of those bloody DD's to chase you on the zone, to make sure are there mines. So you don't need to search the whole damn ocean to find one ship to make little tests with it.

Ok, I saw my first mine in SH3 yesterday, june 2 of 1940 near Dunkerque...
I used the scope to watch something but finaly I exploded...
:cry:
It's not a very good point to your hollydays...

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1221/222em3.jpg

And consider that in real life you probably won't see anything like that. I keep my underwater visibility set for 2, just to prevent me doing things like that.