Gents,

Don't blame it on Ubi, it's like that on Steam as well. And with Apple products too... It's like if there was parity between Dollars and Euros.
So, if Ubi is evil, Valve and Apple are equally evil, to cite examples.
If I remember well, "Steam" (whoever represented them) blamed it on local taxes, highers in Europe. But I heard that a long time ago, I don't remember who said that when.

I hope that it's does not matter to anyone that Ubi is French, and that it was mentioned here just to point out that it's located in Europe.

But of course all corporations are evil (by definition) when it comes to our money, that cannot be news to american people.

And of course it is a shame for us european customers having to pay double price for a european product. It's normal to buy local products cheaper, but more expensive???

I'll wait for the bargain bin this time because I find it disgusting. I got the deluxe box because I totally support this unique product line. But this kind of marketing makes me sick. C'mon Ubi we are in the global era, have you heard???

Let's be fair here
 

It is much cheaper to deliver a download to the public, even with Sony's traditional rapacious prices for the SecuROM "bonus", than it is to box up a bunch of DVD's and instruction sheet/manuals. I personally would have preferred to purchase a $20 DVD without SecuROM instead of my $10 SecuROM infested download. I would consider that a better value. That is what Europe is getting.

It's one thing to have fun with "corporations are evil" and "government is evil" but neither observation is true. There are lots of good corporations and a few decent governments. We spend most of our time sneering at the bad ones because that is much more entertaining.

The real problem is large group dynamics. The skill set for obtaining a position of leadership within most large groups is totally different and often in conflict with the skill set of being successful once you get there.

This is especially a problem with democratically elected government, where a great campaigner can be a lousy administrator and the whole shebang falls apart under him once he's elected. An example would be American President Jimmy Carter. He said all kinds of wonderful things while running for president, looked like a winner, wrote the inspiring book "Why Not the Best", wiped out a capable administrator who couldn't persuade his mother to tell him how to get to the bathroom, and the rest is destruction of the American economy for five years.

The fact is that corporations are better than no corporations. Governments are better than no governments. Ever been hired by a poor person? You won't be. Ever had your rights protected by a non-government policeman? It isn't going to happen. Both entities are necessary for any semblance of civilization. Otherwise, start learning to rub sticks together to make fire. We may not live in the best of all possible worlds, but we live in the best world there is.

I'm not so naive as to say corporations are bad in themselves. I think they are intrinsically bad when it comes to our money, since a corporation's objective is getting our money. That's the reason for their existence.

In this case, for me, what Ubi have done is lower the price in the USA to a product without much appeal there (German U-Boote) while they kept it up in Europe where it will probably have more success by itself. You can call it supply/demand. In the 21st century, and talking about a product than can be instantly delivered anywhere in the earth in the same conditions, I call it abuse.

Call it what you wish
 

That doesn't make it true. Every complany must make a profit to survive. Profits are good, no matter what over 100 years of socialist indoctrination have tried to establish, and profits are to be celebrated as the badge of achievement that a company has produced something that the public sees value in.

The myth that profits are bad, the myth that corporations are bad, the myth that only government can make everything bright and rosy, the myth that you can and should tax those evil corporations, stand exposed as utter foolishness in Europe. Only in the US do we continue to punish our shining achievers with the highest corporate taxes in the world. Fact: it is impossible to tax a business. You can only indirectly tax the customers of that business while you pretend (hilariously) to punish corporate evil. Socialism: the freak dog with three heads, none of which has the sense to squat before it deficates.

Corporations, like government, labor unions, condominium owners' associations are necessary functions that we can only do imperfectly, hoping for more good than evil to be produced. Since they are all made from the same human race, they are all subject to human abuse and misuse. Attacking the institutions because of the evil of the people within is nonsensical. Our alternative is to pick up our clubs, wear animal skins, live in caves and die at age 30. Oh, kiss Silent Hunter goodbye in the process.:yep:

As I said before, given the choice of the download for $10 or a boxed DVD without SecuROM for $20, even with the price difference I would have bought the DVD and called it great value, not abuse. Your position fails because you say that are the same product. They are not.

Well we are wading totally off-topic here :) and maybe a little too deep into the matter...

My point is the same, anyway. They can get away with it because we are "tied" to them since no one else is developing hardcore subsims nowadays. But releasing the same title the same day, with so many distribution restrictions, and such price difference, it is just not fair.

Wow! You're right! Where the heck are we?
 

So far off topic I can't find any roadsigns out here at all!:rotfl:

You are approaching the outskirts of Troll Land, where I live! ;)

hmm
 

I have ran into the same thing in reverse downloading from european countries. I play microsoft flight sim and found the cost was double for us U.S customers to download addon content from certain flight sim mega online stores.When i complained I was told the EU taxes everything going out even downloads.So you are not the only one getting hosed.Maybe that's why europeans are always paying higher.

kampf

I have to agree that profit aren't bad, but only under one condition: The profit must be shared with the employees. Nowadays the big corporations make zillions of $, the CEOs get millions of wages and the normal worker is being fired.
This is the reason why leftist parties in parts of the world are becoming more and more popular again.
Ok, that's enough off topic for now folks.;)