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msb80sc 01-04-08 08:51 PM

Dual 5_25 deck guns, check.
Dual twin 40mm AA guns, check.
And for final exam, dual 16 inch Iowa turrets.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...16inchtest.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...6inchtest1.jpg

Mush Martin 01-04-08 10:06 PM

Thats quite a feat for a first poster
welcome aboard msb80sc
from the look of things Im sure you will have
a fine time here at subsim even without help.

MM:up:

Travis Reed 01-04-08 11:48 PM

Been awhile since I mooded the gun on my uboat, not since SH3 and several months ago...and I've forgotten how to do it...:cry:

Would someone care to re-enlighten me as to how to accomplish this?


Wonder if you can fire all three guns on those Iowa turrets...

Fincuan 01-05-08 12:07 AM

Hahahh... I'd love to see the DD skipper's face when he rushes to take out the sub and comes against the Iowa's guns. Those of Yamato are of course even bigger... :)

Has anyone btw gotten rid of the CTD when firing the twin 40mms?

Mush Martin 01-05-08 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fincuan
Hahahh... I'd love to see the DD skipper's face when he rushes to take out the sub and comes against the Iowa's guns. Those of Yamato are of course even bigger... :)

Has anyone btw gotten rid of the CTD when firing the twin 40mms?

What ctd? I havent had one yet but my gun tests have all been
extremely short "Ok the gun is working tests"

?????:hmm:

Mush Martin 01-05-08 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Reed
Been awhile since I mooded the gun on my uboat, not since SH3 and several months ago...and I've forgotten how to do it...:cry:

Would someone care to re-enlighten me as to how to accomplish this?


Wonder if you can fire all three guns on those Iowa turrets...

its a different method in shIV
I guess a good start would be to
just have you examine the upc files
in the games main data folder
make a copy though before you
make any changes

it all opens and edits in a standard
text editor like word or notepad or whatever.
if youve already done it before it wont take
long to figure out and you can always ask for
help.
MM

Fincuan 01-05-08 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mush Martin
What ctd? I havent had one yet but my gun tests have all been
extremely short "Ok the gun is working tests"

?????:hmm:

I always get a CTD when trying to fire the Twin 40mm gun, and I've seen others complain about the same thing.

edit: USS Balao firing a broadside:

http://staufa.bounceme.net/files/tut...yamatoguns.jpg

I wonder how they kept her from rolling over :)

Mush Martin 01-05-08 01:28 AM

I can admit it im man enough :shifty:

Nice Boat:up: it reminds me of the first thing
I ever said to my wife.

Thendash 01-05-08 03:17 AM

What did you say? Love me because I'm freaking awsome looking?:up: When adding guns to a sub, can they only be placed in certain places or can you move them around? Because I think it'd look better if they were spaced a bit apart. Also, can the watch see through the guns or will you have to rely on the periscope to see outside your sub?

Xypher 01-05-08 03:24 AM

allright! where the heck can i get my hands on any of the tubs thats been posted on here. i want to take them for a spin!

Travis Reed 01-05-08 05:16 AM

Guess I'll have to take a look when I get home then. I never did figure out how to put differrent turrets on the SH3 boats, but I worked around that and changed the damage for my 88mm to equal that of the 16" guns from one of the British BBs...and the radius as well...was nice blowing those pesky DDs in half with one shot...

Travis Reed 01-05-08 05:30 AM

Oh, yeah... Mush, you really should consider trying to implement a set of 4 Twin 5" DP guns like those found on certain US DDs on the Balao (including AA shells) and see how well they can shoot down planes.

Mush Martin 01-05-08 06:45 AM

Travis you are a gentlemen and a scholar.
M

Mush Martin 01-05-08 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thendash
What did you say? Love me because I'm freaking awsome looking?:up: When adding guns to a sub, can they only be placed in certain places or can you move them around? Because I think it'd look better if they were spaced a bit apart. Also, can the watch see through the guns or will you have to rely on the periscope to see outside your sub?

I havent gotten a look at finucans stuff yet so I cant speak for
all but in my case at least these are simple not complex changes
done with a text editor not a hex editor which is what you would
need to relocate the gun mount on the model. we are just spinning
stuff onto and off of the existing mounts and the big turrets will always
overlap on such a small hull.

M

Ducimus 01-05-08 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msb80sc
Dual 5_25 deck guns, check.
Dual twin 40mm AA guns, check.
And for final exam, dual 16 inch Iowa turrets.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...16inchtest.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...6inchtest1.jpg


:rotfl: Thats alot of boom!

msb80sc 01-05-08 03:39 PM

Here's my little test of an upgunned porpoise. It defaults to the late war tower and does have a ctd bug that Fincuan mentioned. If you fire the stern twin 40 it will CTD! Also you cannot man the 16 turrets, think it needs a .cam file for that. Neither of these problems bother me, was planning on the crew manning them anyway. You can equip dual deck guns, 3's, 4's, 5's and 16's, also dual AA guns.

JSGME ready. Have fun.

http://hosted.filefront.com/msb80sc/

Sailor Steve 01-05-08 05:10 PM

That must be quite a special boat, considering those 16" turrets each weigh 2000 tons!:rotfl:

Travis Reed 01-06-08 12:25 AM

Hmm, having some difficulty in finding out what weapons are on what ships so I can try putting some on my sub...

Travis Reed 01-06-08 01:34 AM

Eep! Looks like it's more complicated than I thought...

To do it properly requires far more tweaking than my meager mod on SH3 (where I tweaked the shell damage for the 88mm and the larger gun to do the same damage as a shell from a Brit 16" gun...).

Some questions:

1.
a. Do I have to specify what type of ammo is carried for guns (i.e. 5 in ammo for 5 in guns, 20mm ammo for 20 mm guns)?
b. Or is it assumed that the right type is carried for the guns mounted?

2. Where do I change the amount of ammo carried?

3. Where can I find info on what weapons a particular class of AI ship uses (as I'm looking to use the same guns as a Somers DD)?

4. Any special tools besides S3D and a text editor helpful (as I want to make the new turrets available as an upgrade to all sub classes that have gun mounts)?

Mush Martin 01-06-08 05:35 AM

Ok Travis its not going to be that straightforward though.

I am currently pumping out a few email lessons on simple text
based modding in shiv its currently going out to RDP and AVG
but if you flip me a pm with your email addy I will send off the
first two emails to you for now. the third hasnt been written
yet.

we arent at the guns yet but will get there right now we are
just going over the orientation of the file structures which is
really what your asking about.

I'm doing it one every couple of days
so it wont be tommorow that your ready but
by two or three weeks from now you will be
ready for that and quite a bit more.
maybe I should just do it on a thread but
that is more time consuming with broader
questions and answers needing more attention.
and I have other projects of priority.

Regards
M


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