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mrbeast 11-30-07 04:50 PM

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While not a sub flick "The compas Rose" is good.

Do you mean the Cruel Sea? maybe released under two names. the book is a classic!

I think it was released in the US under the title 'Compas Rose'.

BTW it is a classic, quite hard hitting too the scene where the skipper has to DC a U boat in a sea full of survivors bobbing in their life jackets is very powerful.

Now you know what people mean when they say 'worse things happen at sea'.

Also 'In Which We Serve' starring Noel Coward is quite good. Not sure if it has subs in it though, but similar to Cruel Sea.

Joe S 11-30-07 04:58 PM

unfortunately, Run Silent, Run Deep, is the only movie about US subs worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell. (If thats the one with Clak Gable and Bungo Pete). There is another one called Torpedo Run but I dont remember much about it.For some reason WWII submarine warfare has recieved little attention from movie makers, which is too bad. Joe S

mrbeast 11-30-07 05:35 PM

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unfortunately, Run Silent, Run Deep, is the only movie about US subs worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell. (If thats the one with Clak Gable and Bungo Pete). There is another one called Torpedo Run but I dont remember much about it.For some reason WWII submarine warfare has recieved little attention from movie makers, which is too bad. Joe S

Well if the only really good sub film they ever make is Das Boot then I could live with that. But I'm endlessly miystified why, when they decidedto make a new sub film they chose to make a turkey like U571 and not one about the exploits of USN subs in the Pacific. :hmm: :nope:

Ducimus 11-30-07 07:23 PM

They have to have a real drama. Something. A story people know of. Theres LOTS to choose from, but i think most American's dont even know their own countries history. People ive talked to, thier knowledge level can be summed up as such:

"Yeah there was this redcoat thingy, and then there was the civil war (you know where the north and the south shot at each other?) then we went to war against the nazi's, then there was vietnam, and now iraq!"

Hollywood uses what people know or heard of, to make money. If they don't think the story will sell (not good, people dont know about it, etc), they wont do it.

I think EVENTUALLY they'll get around to it - when they run out of other half baked ideas. This may take them awhile, their full of half baked ideas for a movie.

Ducimus 11-30-07 07:31 PM

Was just thinking, theres so much movie material in the PTO.

Looking at my own sig. The Tautog.

They could start the movie with the pearl harbor attack, make it a 3 hour bladder burster with lots of depth charging, torpedo blasting drama as she goes through the war, and end it Saving private ryan style with some old vets watching their boat meet the scrappers torch years later. edit: or start it with the scrappers torch, and then flashback like SPR.

JSF 11-30-07 08:35 PM

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yes, Destination Tokyo is good

Yes...I agree. And,"Mush Morton" was technical advisor on the set.

SteamWake 11-30-07 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuc
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Originally Posted by SteamWake
While not a sub flick "The compas Rose" is good.

Do you mean the Cruel Sea? maybe released under two names. the book is a classic!

I think it was released in the US under the title 'Compas Rose'.

BTW it is a classic, quite hard hitting too the scene where the skipper has to DC a U boat in a sea full of survivors bobbing in their life jackets is very powerful.

Now you know what people mean when they say 'worse things happen at sea'.

Also 'In Which We Serve' starring Noel Coward is quite good. Not sure if it has subs in it though, but similar to Cruel Sea.

Yes my bad. The movie is actually "The cruel sea" but still a good view... anyone know if this is still under copy protection ?

Rather copyright.

Nuc 11-30-07 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe S
unfortunately, Run Silent, Run Deep, is the only movie about US subs worth the powder it would take to blow it to hell. (If thats the one with Clak Gable and Bungo Pete). There is another one called Torpedo Run but I dont remember much about it.For some reason WWII submarine warfare has recieved little attention from movie makers, which is too bad. Joe S

I agree that RSRD is my favorite (I saw it in the theater and as a 12 year old, I had nightmares about Tab Hunter being crushed by a torpedo), however Ned Beach hated what they did to his novel. All have something to offer. The scenes of fire and WSRT's on Crimson Tide and flooding on Gray Lady Down are very realistic. Operation Pacific is iconic of the entire US submarine war contribution.

WSRT= Wepons Systems Readiness Test

VonHammer 12-01-07 01:07 PM

ok ill have to add a few of those to my list. what about books? i read alot also strickly military thrillers. ive read tom clancy,web griffin, dale brown and stephn coonts.

mrbeast 12-01-07 04:53 PM

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ok ill have to add a few of those to my list. what about books? i read alot also strickly military thrillers. ive read tom clancy,web griffin, dale brown and stephn coonts.


Run Silent Run Deep. By Edward L. Beach
Das Boot. By Lothar-Gunthar Buchheim
Iron Coffins. By Herbert Werner
War In The Boats. By William J. Ruhe

Read all of those and can recomend them. Iron Coffins and War In The Boats are acounts of RL. Das Boot and Iron Coffins are obviously about U Boats but are still a good read. War In The Boats has some good stuff about S class boats in it and also bescribes some of the eccentric habits of some of the skippers too. Run Silent, Run Deep is better than the film of the same name.

AVGWarhawk 12-01-07 05:22 PM

Crash Dive is not to bad. It turns into more of a love story but it has some great shots of the real deal.

VonHammer 12-01-07 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeast

Run Silent Run Deep. By Edward L. Beach
Das Boot. By Lothar-Gunthar Buchheim
Iron Coffins. By Herbert Werner
War In The Boats. By William J. Ruhe

ill have to check those out. the last book i read was Stephn Colbert's I AM AMERICA AND SO CAN YOU!, Which i would highly recomend. but ill add those to my list.

Peto 12-02-07 12:06 AM

I watched Down Periscope with a WWII subvet and he loved it! He said that it was actually a pretty good depiction of a Balao Fleet boat and that Kelsy Grahmer (sp?) did a good portrayal of a non-Regular Navy Skipper. The seen with the tanker was "a bit" over the top though.

Torplexed 12-02-07 01:28 AM

Sadly there has only been one modern movie about US submarines in WW2 and that was David Twohy's dismal Below. (2002)

The movie opens as a naval thriller, complete with the necessary sequences of the US sub being hunted by German escorts; (it's set in the Atlantic oddly enough) the dropping of depth charges; the intense moments as crewmen wait for the charges to explode; and some excellent CGI effects. Without much hint as to what’s about to happen, the film suddenly degenerates into a ghost story, with some vengeful spirit freaking out and in some cases taking out the sub’s crew, including its jittery C.O. and some shipwrecked British passengers. At this point the movie blows credibility faster than a sub blows it's ballast tanks.

As to the ghost story — well, if you aren’t able to guess the twist at the end, then you haven’t been watching nearly enough “Twilight Zone” episodes. And did I mention that the pacing and plotting is horrible? Or that the film is as scary as taking a nap?:down:

Peto 12-02-07 01:45 AM

Yep. saw that one. The guy who played the COB did a great job! Started great--ended like a lack-luster Hollywood Turd.


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