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Reece 01-06-09 08:46 AM

We're all going to die a horrible death!!:oops::doh::dead: AAAAAHHH!:lol:

Zachstar 01-06-09 04:18 PM

Game over man GAME OVER!!

No it is not going to blow. Reason I say that? Because with 7 billion people on earth there is zip that can be done if it does blow.

Besides this fear creeps up every year. The simple fact is it can blow within an hour or within a thousand years and more than likely something in between.

So not in our lifetimes.

Enigma 01-06-09 05:23 PM

Imagine the irony when Americans are tearing down the walls and floating on makeshift rafts to get into Mexico...:rotfl:

Digital_Trucker 01-06-09 06:31 PM

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Imagine the irony when Americans are tearing down the walls and floating on makeshift rafts to get into Mexico...:rotfl:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ies/smileW.gif Even better, imagine the irony of the Mexican government trying to figure out what to do with us.

Reece 01-06-09 06:45 PM

Your always welcome in Australia, does anyone there know how to build an ark?:lol:

August 01-06-09 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece
Your always welcome in Australia, does anyone there know how to build an ark?:lol:

Actually if I couldn't live in America anymore, Australia would be my first choice as a new home.

baggygreen 01-06-09 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece
Your always welcome in Australia, does anyone there know how to build an ark?:lol:

Actually if I couldn't live in America anymore, Australia would be my first choice as a new home.

Why's that mate?

August 01-06-09 06:59 PM

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Why's that mate?

Because you Aussies remind me more of my own people than any other. It's not the accent or the customs but rather the general take on life.

baggygreen 01-06-09 07:07 PM

Fairy's nuts.

Visited much?

ooh, better make it on-topic a bit... umm, there are no super volcanoes down under so you can escape it! :D

August 01-06-09 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen
Fairy's nuts.

Visited much?

ooh, better make it on-topic a bit... umm, there are no super volcanoes down under so you can escape it! :D

Never been there, or to Yellowstone for that matter.

Christopher Snow 01-06-09 07:33 PM

The Yellowstone supervolcano is already about 40,000 years overdue, so we are all living on borrowed time anyway.

It's gone off several times in the past, on average about every 600,000 years or so.

Those who suggest it could wipe out mankind aren't that far wrong either--the last time one of those supervolcanoes went off (about 75,000 years ago in the South China Sea) it nearly did wipe out mankind.

If the human genetic record is to be believed, everyone alive today is decended from just a few thousand hardy survivors of that last big one....

Assuming there are at least a few thousand survivors once again, they'll start all over again. It won't be a question of picking up the threads of civilization--it will be "back to the stone age" all over again.

I do hope no one reinvents "Windows" the next time around. :-P


CS

August 01-06-09 08:03 PM

I wonder what signs of our present civilization would be left 75,000 years later. Not very much i'd expect.

FIREWALL 01-06-09 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
I saw that drama documentary and my impression was that the USA north of the southern states was screwed and everyone ran down to Mexico, the rest of the world was OK.


The movie was called " The Day After Tomorrow "

UnderseaLcpl 01-06-09 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
I saw that drama documentary and my impression was that the USA north of the southern states was screwed and everyone ran down to Mexico, the rest of the world was OK.


The movie was called " The Day After Tomorrow "


<groan>

Aramike 01-06-09 09:43 PM

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Those who suggest it could wipe out mankind aren't that far wrong either--the last time one of those supervolcanoes went off (about 75,000 years ago in the South China Sea) it nearly did wipe out mankind.
See, it's this very type of idea that makes me take issue with the "Doom and Gloomers".

Yes, it is true that the last time a supervolcano erupted was around 75,000 years ago (Toba). And it sure did cause a near extinction (the DNA bottleneck estimates around between 2,000 and 25,000 human survivors).

However, mankind DID INDEED survive. Those people had none of the technology and scientific understandings of today, and yet they made it.

Also, I don't believe that the Yellowstone caldera is expected to have quite the size as Toba.

Just sayin'.

Digital_Trucker 01-06-09 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike
However, mankind DID INDEED survive. Those people had none of the technology and scientific understandings of today, and yet they made it.

And that was to their advantage, not their detriment. They knew how to fend for themselves without modern conveniences. Todays human race (at least the so called civilized portion of it) wouldn't last long without a grocery store and electricity.

August 01-06-09 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike
However, mankind DID INDEED survive. Those people had none of the technology and scientific understandings of today, and yet they made it.

And that was to their advantage, not their detriment. They knew how to fend for themselves without modern conveniences. Todays human race (at least the so called civilized portion of it) wouldn't last long without a grocery store and electricity.

True but I think that because there are far more of us, even with a lowered survival rate per capita there's still likely to be more actual survivors...

Glass half full. :D

Christopher Snow 01-06-09 10:52 PM

Aramike, the point I was trying to make was this: If we get down to (or were down to) just a few thousand survivors (of any sort of man-made or natural disaster), we're pretty near the ragged edge of oblivion, and it wouldn't take much more to snuff us out completely. An inconvenient plague, a bad run of strep throat...a killer STD, etc.

I'm not saying mankind won't survive again, but the fact that we have done so up until now is no real guarantee either.

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For anyone who has so far missed it, the biggest problem that will face mankind after one of these events is GLOBAL COOLING/GLOBAL DARKENING on a massive scale, due primarily to the huge new amount of dust in the atmosphere*.

[*many cubic miles of it.]

An event like this would certainly trigger a new ice-age, so the survivors (who will be confined, generally, to the tropical zone as far as liveable habitat goes) will face a real challenge to grow enough food to stay alive. Fishing won't be a hugely viable alternative either, because plankton (which feeds the rest of the easily accessible ocean food chain) depends on sunlight too, and there won't be very much of it to go around for quite a few years after such an event.

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It seems to me we really ought to get off our collective duffs and build a few "civilization-recoverable" repositories down in the tropics, to give us the best chance to rebuild from this sort of disaster, but it won't happen anytime soon, I fear. We're too focused on global-warming to get anyone's attention.

There ARE a few such "narrow-focus" repositories at various places around the globe (there is a frozen seed repository on the island of Spitzbergen, for example), but I don't believe the efforts are anywhere near coordinated enough to significantly increase our chances after a disaster like this. At least not yet.

Moreover, a seed-repository on Spitzbergen won't be accessible to anyone who gets there AFTER it's covered under a half-mile of new ice, even if they know it's there (which I seriously doubt).

An "off-globe" repository (on the moon) would be a better idea, but it would necessarily also have to have it's own "population" which would return to the earth to begin rebuilding too--without an accompanying population base up there, it would certainly be unreachable...and entirely useless...to the few surviving "cavemen" down here.



CS

TarJak 01-06-09 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen
Fairy's nuts.

Visited much?

ooh, better make it on-topic a bit... umm, there are no super volcanoes down under so you can escape it! :D

There used to be but that was a little while ago...

http://www.bigvolcano.com.au/natural/wollum.htm

Aramike 01-07-09 03:56 AM

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And that was to their advantage, not their detriment. They knew how to fend for themselves without modern conveniences. Todays human race (at least the so called civilized portion of it) wouldn't last long without a grocery store and electricity.
I HIGHLY disagree with that. Just because modern humans aren't accustomed to living off the land, as it were, doesn't mean we'd be any less likely to adapt to it.

As a whole, we are quite a bit more educated than prehistoric man. Sure, 90% of people may not be able to adapt. But the remaining 10% accounts for MILLIONS of people.

That being said, there will certainly be survivors who are well-equipped to live without conveniences. These people would likely become leaders. They would then teach their crafts to others. New leaders would emerge.

So is human history...
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True but I think that because there are far more of us, even with a lowered survival rate per capita there's still likely to be more actual survivors...
Exactly. And, due to there being far more actual survivors, there will be far more skills preserved.
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Aramike, the point I was trying to make was this: If we get down to (or were down to) just a few thousand survivors (of any sort of man-made or natural disaster), we're pretty near the ragged edge of oblivion, and it wouldn't take much more to snuff us out completely. An inconvenient plague, a bad run of strep throat...a killer STD, etc.

I'm not saying mankind won't survive again, but the fact that we have done so up until now is no real guarantee either.
True enough, but anything that gets us down to a few thousand considering how we're so urbanized, may as well be enough to wipe us out, as the catastrophe would have to be worldwide thereby ensuring that survivors are few and far-between.


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