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07-04-07 12:23 AM

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For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?

Correct. :yep:

Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.

The Avon Lady 07-04-07 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
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For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?

Correct. :yep:

Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

07-04-07 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?

Correct. :yep:

Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

I'm not disagreeing with you Avon Lady, but I have found that some folks opinion of the US is based upon lack of 'real' knowledge, prejudice, or lack of control of their own life/gov't and blaming it on the US.

The Avon Lady 07-04-07 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?

Correct. :yep:

Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

I'm not disagreeing with you Avon Lady, but I have found that some folks opinion of the US is based upon lack of 'real' knowledge, prejudice, or lack of control of their own life/gov't and blaming it on the US.

Agree but then point it out. There's tons of misinformed folks out there in webbyland. Become an influence, an @mbassador if you wish. ;)

07-04-07 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?

Correct. :yep:

Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

I'm not disagreeing with you Avon Lady, but I have found that some folks opinion of the US is based upon lack of 'real' knowledge, prejudice, or lack of control of their own life/gov't and blaming it on the US.

Agree but then point it out. There's tons of misinformed folks out there in webbyland. Become an influence, an @mbassador if you wish. ;)

Have I not?

The Avon Lady 07-04-07 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by waste gate
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
For the first time in many a presidential election, I am still undecided. :hmm:

I take you have that dual citizenship which allows you to vote in the general election.?

Correct. :yep:

Very good. Now I can see your opinion as legitimate when it comes to this topic.
Unlike others.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. I have opinions on the politics of various other countries. Should we all excuse ourselves from expressing opinions when such topics come up?

That being said, it's another thing altogether to take issue with an opinion when it is wrong or you feel it is wrong.

Otherwise, who needs forums!!! :roll:

I'm not disagreeing with you Avon Lady, but I have found that some folks opinion of the US is based upon lack of 'real' knowledge, prejudice, or lack of control of their own life/gov't and blaming it on the US.

Agree but then point it out. There's tons of misinformed folks out there in webbyland. Become an influence, an @mbassador if you wish. ;)

Have I not?

Well, I was a bit surprised by your use of describing opinions as "legitimate" or not. The implication is that had I been some sort of an "outsider", my opinions could potentially be considered disqualified, so to speak.

Yahoshua 07-04-07 01:23 AM

"Which canidate do you want for prez "


I'm pretty convinced that unless Fred Thompson and Tom Tancredo pair up and run, we haven't got a chance against Hillary winning the nomination and choosing Obama as her running mate.

In which case I will be packing my bags for the gun bans that I'm positively sure would be following their occupation of the Whitehouse. (<------NOT kidding)

But as Murphys' Law states that The most substantial problems will occur at the mos inoppurtune time, I'm expecting that somebody will dog up the Rose Law firm issue ot the other skeletons in Hillarys' closet and that'll send the Dems out scrambling to find a better candidate for the nomination and it'll end up bein ugly all around.

The best I'm hoping for right now is to end up with a do-nothing, good-for-nothing administration that will be a lame duck in the water and incapable of doing anything.

I'm tired of politicians inventing a solution and then looking for a problem instead of setting their political squabbles aside long enough to do some good for this nation and solving the real problems that need attention.

07-04-07 01:28 AM

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"Which canidate do you want for prez "


I'm pretty convinced that unless Fred Thompson and Tom Tancredo pair up and run, we haven't got a chance against Hillary winning the nomination and choosing Obama as her running mate.

In which case I will be packing my bags for the gun bans that I'm positively sure would be following their occupation of the Whitehouse. (<------NOT kidding)

But as Murphys' Law states that The most substantial problems will occur at the mos inoppurtune time, I'm expecting that somebody will dog up the Rose Law firm issue ot the other skeletons in Hillarys' closet and that'll send the Dems out scrambling to find a better candidate for the nomination and it'll end up bein ugly all around.

The best I'm hoping for right now is to end up with a do-nothing, good-for-nothing administration that will be a lame duck in the water and incapable of doing anything.

I'm tired of politicians inventing a solution and then looking for a problem instead of setting their political squabbles aside long enough to do some good for this nation and solving the real problems that need attention.

Repeal the seventeenth amendment and hold the house to its constituents. If the defeat of the immigration bill taught us nothing it should have taught us that the will of the people can prevail!! More power to us!!!!!

The Avon Lady 07-04-07 01:41 AM

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The best I'm hoping for right now is to end up with a do-nothing, good-for-nothing administration that will be a lame duck in the water and incapable of doing anything.

These are times when the US cannot afford such an administration. :nope:

P_Funk 07-04-07 03:01 AM

Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman. And I'd rather see a progressive Republican win than Hillary.

Barack FTW.

The Avon Lady 07-04-07 03:11 AM

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Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman.

Another nod for yet another pupulist feel-goody candidate.

Prediction: Obama is the 2008 edition of Howard Dean.

P_Funk 07-04-07 03:17 AM

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Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman.

Another nod for yet another pupulist feel-goody candidate.

Prediction: Obama is the 2008 edition of Howard Dean.

Yes god forbid that anyone feel good about the man they would vote for. I forgot that the days of statesmen and true human personality in politicians is over. They shot Kennedy for a reason. Bobby too. No, Nixon is where its at.

The Avon Lady 07-04-07 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by P_Funk
Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman.

Another nod for yet another pupulist feel-goody candidate.

Prediction: Obama is the 2008 edition of Howard Dean.

Yes god forbid that anyone feel good about the man they would vote for.

If falling for a continous stream of empty platitudes is what turns you on, then who's stopping you?

P_Funk 07-04-07 03:26 AM

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If falling for a continous stream of empty platitudes is what turns you on, then who's stopping you?

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Fish 07-04-07 12:17 PM

Oprah! :up:

Heibges 07-04-07 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by P_Funk
Obama. He actually sounds like a statesman.

Another nod for yet another pupulist feel-goody candidate.

Prediction: Obama is the 2008 edition of Howard Dean.

I would like it put on record that Howard Dean is not from Vermont, but from East Hampton, New York. Which officially makes him a Flatlander.

I'm voting for John McCain.

USS_shipmaster 07-04-07 12:55 PM

Unfortunately, may be because of my background I do not trust politicians at all.
Novadays we ( i mean USA) are facing several high level problems including:
- anti terrorism war and islam issue.( See "What West needs to know "(about Islam ). we loosing propaganda war...
- social security problem
- education issue
- IMF debts
- immigration issue
- dollar / euro
- international relationship issue
- information (propaganda) war issue
Now I see only results of policy of our Vice-President and his associates.
Actualy It was a results of bad analytical skills ot his(or GW) team.
But I think that democrats will make much more mistakes than republicans.
All politicians are populists. Nothing new. The Question is who can make more realistic politics inside and outside the country?
We have a choice between Bad and very Bad. I am afraid of Obama. He doesnt have any real experience in goverment. And he is a populist.
Lady Clinton is just a little bit better. And again a populist. Republicans??? Give me a name. I personally prefer C.Rise. But she is too smart to go into this sh*t.

The Avon Lady 07-04-07 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by USS_shipmaster
Unfortunately, may be because of my background I do not trust politicians at all.
Novadays we ( i mean USA) are facing several high level problems including:
- anti terrorism war and islam issue.( See "What West needs to know "(about Islam ). we loosing propaganda war...
- social security problem
- education issue
- IMF debts
- immigration issue
- dollar / euro
- international relationship issue
- information (propaganda) war issue
Now I see only results of policy of our Vice-President and his associates.
Actualy It was a results of bad analytical skills ot his(or GW) team.
But I think that democrats will make much more mistakes than republicans.
All politicians are populists. Nothing new. The Question is who can make more realistic politics inside and outside the country?
We have a choice between Bad and very Bad. I am afraid of Obama. He doesnt have any real experience in goverment. And he is a populist.
Lady Clinton is just a little bit better. And again a populist. Republicans??? Give me a name. I personally prefer C.Rise. But she is too smart to go into this sh*t.

I was with you all the way until you mentioned Condoleezza Rice. :nope: :nope:

USS_shipmaster 07-04-07 01:09 PM

We have to stop pretending !!!!!
We need real policy with radical islam regimes!
We need a real immigration policy ( we have to wellcome here educated people who will make our country stronger, lets make educational barrier, stop immigration from ANY islamic country )
We need real equality between people, no preferences, no benefits based on race!
Benefits only for Veterans.

Heibges 07-04-07 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by USS_shipmaster
Unfortunately, may be because of my background I do not trust politicians at all.
Novadays we ( i mean USA) are facing several high level problems including:
- anti terrorism war and islam issue.( See "What West needs to know "(about Islam ). we loosing propaganda war...
- social security problem
- education issue
- IMF debts
- immigration issue
- dollar / euro
- international relationship issue
- information (propaganda) war issue
Now I see only results of policy of our Vice-President and his associates.
Actualy It was a results of bad analytical skills ot his(or GW) team.
But I think that democrats will make much more mistakes than republicans.
All politicians are populists. Nothing new. The Question is who can make more realistic politics inside and outside the country?
We have a choice between Bad and very Bad. I am afraid of Obama. He doesnt have any real experience in goverment. And he is a populist.
Lady Clinton is just a little bit better. And again a populist. Republicans??? Give me a name. I personally prefer C.Rise. But she is too smart to go into this sh*t.

I was with you all the way until you mentioned Condoleezza Rice. :nope: :nope:

I could never vote for anyone who has a supertanker named after them.


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