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Skybird 05-28-07 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Antidike
It's sad we have such a dull one, it gives me sad feelings!:nope:

By the way I'm Kurtz's daughter call me Emelye, Em, or Antidike ( it's greek it's pronounced Anti-deekee [Emelye in the ancient Greek times would be Emelius for a male or Emelia for a girl or spelt something like that and that means enemy and my brother couldn't find enemy in greek so he put in adversary and the rabbit just jumped straight out of the hat!])

"Neal, you need to search another navy angel avatar...!" :p that is almost three in a row! :lol:

Prof 05-28-07 05:26 PM

I see only one other person has joined me in voting for keeping 'God Save the Queen'...I was beginning to think I was the only person in the UK who actually likes it.

Every time I hear it I think of what Britain should be; stately and proud, not the politically correct, emotionally obsessed freeloaders' paradise that it has become.

kurtz 05-28-07 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
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Originally Posted by kurtz
Germany German Women, German Wine, German Song...prefer red myself so I'll pass on the Reisling...:D

Just for the record, that 1st and 2nd verse of that song is cleaned from the German anthem. Only the 3rd verse is accepted, and it goes like this:


Unity and Rights and Freedom
For the German Fatherland
Let us all strive for that
Brotherly with heart and hand
Unity and Rights and Freedom
Are the foundation for happiness
Bloom in the glow of happiness
Bloom German Fatherland

One great anthem it almost broke my heart when just recently we were buying some jewellery with germanic runes on and the 's' rune was removed because it was ruled after WWII that it was ruled illegal. I'm angry with the Nazis for taking away our heritage by taking letters from our runic alphabet and also with the the EU community, it's just like taking the letter E from the alphabet and saying it's illegal to have it there.

That last bit was done by Emelye ( me I'm typing for daddy 'cos he seems slow and it's making annoyed just watching someone go in slow motion).

Frenssen 05-28-07 05:37 PM

Land of Hope and Glory. It`s an emotional pompous piece of music, perfect for a national anthem. I wish Elgar was Norwegian, then we could use it;)

kurtz 05-28-07 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gnirtS
Luckily Hen wlad fy nhadau is a much nicer anthem than the English one.

Hating the royal family and being welsh not english GSTQ is something to be ignored, sit down for or time to go and make some coffee.

Agree though GSTQ is a depressing repetetive durge and needs changing. England should use jerusalem or something.

There are great moments in peoples lives and the one I'll remember forever is being on the touchline at the Cardiff Millenieum Stadium and hearing the crowd sing "Land of muy fathers" [pause for misty eyed reflection] and that's when I had the moment about our own national anthem. There was such feeling and belonging in that song in another language....

I want so much for England to have such a song.

XabbaRus 05-28-07 05:49 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MKO-Tt1CHoE

This should be the British Anthem.

Bloody Beuatiful and not nationalistic at all. Serves all countries of the union.

BTW the lady singing is well fit.

XabbaRus 05-28-07 05:53 PM

BTW until we don't let our sailors get caught, build 2 CVFs and get all the new Astutes we can't really have Rule Britannia can we?

Antidike 05-28-07 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
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Originally Posted by Antidike
It's sad we have such a dull one, it gives me sad feelings!:nope:

By the way I'm Kurtz's daughter call me Emelye, Em, or Antidike ( it's greek it's pronounced Anti-deekee [Emelye in the ancient Greek times would be Emelius for a male or Emelia for a girl or spelt something like that and that means enemy and my brother couldn't find enemy in greek so he put in adversary and the rabbit just jumped straight out of the hat!])

"Neal, you need to search another navy angel avatar...!" :p that is almost three in a row! :lol:

Wow yay! this sounds great fun it'd be great to get to know you guys apart from kurtz i know plenty about dear papa!;)

Antidike 05-28-07 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
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Originally Posted by kurtz
Germany German Women, German Wine, German Song...prefer red myself so I'll pass on the Reisling...:D

Just for the record, that 1st and 2nd verse of that song is cleaned from the German anthem. Only the 3rd verse is accepted, and it goes like this:


Unity and Rights and Freedom
For the German Fatherland
Let us all strive for that
Brotherly with heart and hand
Unity and Rights and Freedom
Are the foundation for happiness
Bloom in the glow of happiness
Bloom German Fatherland

Still my favourite "Deutsche Frauen, Deutsche Trauen", beween us we're saxons and I feel thats a good tie:D

Sorry postedon emelye's login too much brandy!

Nostromo 05-28-07 06:07 PM

Rule Britannia, there need be no argument, it involves the entire union, its aggressive, imperialistic and rousing, everything the Empire should be, all others are wishy washy. Great Britain isn't defined by her monarchy, its changed enough times to be truly separate. Rather Britain is the people and the strength of her spirit.

Camaero 05-28-07 06:10 PM

Why didn't you guys pick up White Cliffs of Dover? I guess it works more when your country is in deep peril, but since there is almost always some crisis going on, why not?

Antidike 05-28-07 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaero
Why didn't you guys pick up White Cliffs of Dover? I guess it works more when your country is in deep peril, but since there is almost always some crisis going on, why not?

We don't have bluebirds we may have the cliffs but you have the blue birds so it doesn't really work!

:smug: I'm amazing for a little girl!:smug:

OWNED!!!

kurtz 05-28-07 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MKO-Tt1CHoE

This should be the British Anthem.

Bloody Beuatiful and not nationalistic at all. Serves all countries of the union.

BTW the lady singing is well fit.

We're singing from the same songsheet mate:up:

kurtz 05-28-07 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaero
Why didn't you guys pick up White Cliffs of Dover? I guess it works more when your country is in deep peril, but since there is almost always some crisis going on, why not?

Listened to a radio prog about this recently apparantely it was quite a cynicval attempt to drag you usually reticent yanks into WWII. Still thank v. much for helping, I'm sure it wouldn't have gone so well without you:D

mapuc 05-28-07 06:35 PM

Here in Sweden our national anthem is "Du gamla du fria" directly translatet= You old you free.

But many voices has said that we should replace it with Ulf Lundells "Öppna landskap"= Open land

Markus

robbo180265 05-28-07 07:04 PM

I voted for Jerusalem. It's the only song likely to bring a tear to my eye, and it sounds lovely in a stadium:up:

Happy Times 05-29-07 12:19 AM

I dont think the British anthem is that bad. The best anthems that i know are German, Russian and French. In Finland there is also been talk about what to use as an anthem. Currently we share one with Estonia. Its called "Our Land" "Maamme".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSlAuPOUew4

The other candidate is "Finlandia Hymn",
many think it is better, including me.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fbndUSHL9A0

Ramius 05-29-07 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Prof
I see only one other person has joined me in voting for keeping 'God Save the Queen'...I was beginning to think I was the only person in the UK who actually likes it.

Every time I hear it I think of what Britain should be; stately and proud, not the politically correct, emotionally obsessed freeloaders' paradise that it has become.

Wel, thats what i voted for. Not really because i like it, but the other options dont really hold for an English National Anthem.

You can't really choose Rule Britannia, when "Great Britain" doesnt exist anymore (or is on the verge of splitting up).

Jimbuna 05-29-07 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramius
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Originally Posted by Prof
I see only one other person has joined me in voting for keeping 'God Save the Queen'...I was beginning to think I was the only person in the UK who actually likes it.

Every time I hear it I think of what Britain should be; stately and proud, not the politically correct, emotionally obsessed freeloaders' paradise that it has become.

Wel, thats what i voted for. Not really because i like it, but the other options dont really hold for an English National Anthem.

You can't really choose Rule Britannia, when "Great Britain" doesnt exist anymore (or is on the verge of splitting up).

Ditto :up:

AntEater 05-29-07 06:19 AM

Well, Skybird is only partially right (this time:D).
The third verse of the "song of the germans" by Hoffmann von Fallersleben is sung at official occasions, but the entire song is regarded as the national anthem.
It is a bit problematic, as the anthem is not specifically mentioned in the constitution, in contrary to the flag.
But public singing of the first verse is generally regarded as a right-wing political statement, while the second verse is ignored by everybody...;)
Problem with the first verse is the "borders" from Maas (Belgium) to Memel (Lithuania) from Etsch (Austria) to the Belt (Denmark). These were the borders of the german language area in 1846, when Fallersleben wrote these lines at Heligoland, but they are not the borders of the current german state and governments of the respective states could be offended by having their rivers stated as natural german borders (especially the poles, which currently try their best to beat the muslim world in being offended by everything :D).
So the first verse is a bit problematic politically, the second is to winey and unmanly (Fallersleben originally intended to write a drinking song!) for martial occasions like parades, so only the third one is left...
Actually the german anthem until 1918 was the same as the british, only with different (german) lyrics which basically meant the same.
The melody for the current german anthem is the one of the Kaiserhymne of old Austria, written by Josef Haydn, so Germany basically stole the anthem of (Habsburg) Austria.


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