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06-24-07 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
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Originally Posted by Heibges
In some respects, I think that Spain was lucky to lose the Spanish American War, because all those countries that may have been angry with Spain, ended up angry at the United States instead.

:-?

:D

:lol:

:rotfl:

Now Spain has nothing to worry about but Muslums blowing up their trains:88) :down: :nope: :doh:

geetrue 06-24-07 03:55 PM

They will pass the bill eventually so President Bush can finish the five and half billion dollar fence.

I feel sorry for the poor fruit pickers and at the same time I wonder how the skilled labor illegally here can take my son's job away from him, because they don't charge as much is the reason why.

My son tried several years ago to get a job picking fruit over in Chico, California. They wouldn't hire him because he didn't speak spanish and that's the truth.

The fence is good to keep not only illegal mirgrant's from walking across, but it is also good to give the terroist another option of gaining entry to America, besides just wading across the Rio Grande River.

It'll pass, because deals are being made even as we speak, uh type.

06-24-07 04:01 PM

I don't trust the white house or congress one iota. The fence bill has already been passed but congress didn't appropriate any money to build it. 'Fool me once its your fault, fool me twice its mine'. That is why their is such a fight over this bill. How many more lies are we willing to accept on this immigration threat.

Tchocky 06-24-07 04:26 PM

Woah, House members saying to the President that their support on Iraq is contingent on what happens on illegal immigration?

That's......professional :-?

Heibges 06-24-07 11:41 PM

I think they did what they had to do in light of moving 12 million people is an impossible task.

The fence thing is stupid out will only lead, as it has already, to increased bureaucracy and corruption. Go back a millenium and you find that more often than not, the Mongols bribed their way past the guards on the Great Wall of China.

Do we really want to follow the model set by the two great wall builders of the presnt day: the Soviet Union and Israel?

The Avon Lady 06-24-07 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Heibges
Do we really want to follow the model set by the two great wall builders of the presnt day: the Soviet Union and Israel?

The former kept people in. The latter keeps terrorists out. And it works for the most part.

But suit yourself. :roll:

Iceman 06-25-07 12:12 AM

Always thought this was a chilling line...

"Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure. "

http://fc02.deviantart.com/images/la...moticon_II.gif

Yahoshua 06-25-07 01:39 AM

Well, one things for sure. I'm already looking at foreign properties if TSHTF

The Avon Lady 06-25-07 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua
I'm already looking at foreign properties if TSHTF

Skip London. :roll:

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5...2896570fe1.jpg

P_Funk 06-25-07 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by waste gate
On a separate note, it'll be coming to Canada soon.

http://www.wnd.com/news/printer-frie...TICLE_ID=56332

I'm really scared about this kind of stuff. But if this goes through its our own fault completely. We elected Harper even though he's openly in awe of Brian Mulroney and last time I checked we were supposed to hate him up here. That and the bloody NDP effectively handed power to Harper and gave him the chance to legitimize his position and now this crap is coming at us.

Its hard to believe that the legacy of Pierre Trudeau is already dead. It was right after his tenure too. America keeps takingliberties with Canada's sovereignty all the time. Trying to assert control of the North-West Passage, flouting the NAFTA agreement whenever it benefits Canada, sending DEA and ATF and Texas Rangers up here to be part of the process of law and order (RCMP are so corrupt). And CSIS already openly shares info on Canadian citizens with American agencies, often in attempts to get criminals arrested in the US where laws are stricter.

Trudeau was a nationalist and when I look back at the things he said and did I believe that it really would have felt special to be a Canadian at that time. Now we're selling our selves out and slowly losing those few distinctions we have as a nation from the US. We've always been somewhat complicit with American Foreign policy and we've been a part of the Military Industrial Complex since the end of WW2. But now it seems as if the businessmen we elect and trying to make a merger with the US. People wonder how I can be such a pinko-commie liberal, but this sh!t is what keeps me yapping.

Interesting that we've managed to enter a Canadian vein into this very American topic. :cool:

The Avon Lady 06-25-07 03:12 AM

Everybody, let's swing: I've got the Amnesty Bill Blues!

The Avon Lady 06-25-07 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk
Its hard to believe that the legacy of Pierre Trudeau is already dead.

Oh please! :roll:

Legacy, part 1

Legacy, part 2


UPDATE: Ahahahahaha :rotfl:

Yahoshua 06-25-07 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by Yahoshua
I'm already looking at foreign properties if TSHTF

Skip London. :roll:

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5...2896570fe1.jpg

Europe isn't factoring in at all in my plans. I'm looking more to hook up with some buddies in either the Phillipines or Australia. Good places to sit out the fun there (depending on where you are).

The Avon Lady 06-25-07 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua
Europe isn't factoring in at all in my plans. I'm looking more to hook up with some buddies in either the Phillipines or Australia. Good places to sit out the fun there (depending on where you are).

The Phillipines is an up and coming Islamic Asian target for a Sha'aria state.

Oberon 06-25-07 06:43 AM

Countries really need to start closing their borders to any form of immigration, I've long since argued that for Britain, that enough is enough. Britain has the advantage over Spain that it's an island, and therefore (hopefully) a little easier to monitor if anyone can be bothered.
Hitmans friends idea bears merit but I dare say would be quashed by the EUnichs.
It can be argued that we are to blame in some respects for this situation, it can be argued (and it is certainly of my opinion) that the Allies were to blame for World War II, by creating the situation for Hitler to rise to power....but, at the end of the day, we can sit back and hindsight until we're blue in the face (or hind) and it's not going to do a blind bit of difference. Action must be taken.

BTW: AL I love the pic!! :D

The Avon Lady 06-25-07 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon
Britain has the advantage over Spain that it's an island, and therefore (hopefully) a little easier to monitor if anyone can be bothered.

Another disadvantage to Spain is up and coming.

Good luck, Europe!

P_Funk 06-25-07 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by P_Funk
Its hard to believe that the legacy of Pierre Trudeau is already dead.

Oh please! :roll:

Legacy, part 1

Legacy, part 2


UPDATE: Ahahahahaha :rotfl:

Very nice. Spit on the memory of my country's greatest leader. Your ignorance is nearly as offensive as your mockery. I suppose you get some satisfaction from this of course, obviously since you choose to ignore your intellect and make shots like this. A completely fatuous reamark without any real point other than your repeatedly obvious disdain for the left. People around here make legitimate criticisms of Israel and the USA and it gets branded anti-US or anti-Israel, yet you don't hesitate to make such an obviously inflammatory remark in passing.

You really are pathetic, AL.

Yahoshua 06-25-07 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by Yahoshua
Europe isn't factoring in at all in my plans. I'm looking more to hook up with some buddies in either the Phillipines or Australia. Good places to sit out the fun there (depending on where you are).

The Phillipines is an up and coming Islamic Asian target for a Sha'aria state.

The MILF (Moro Islamic Liberation Front) Is based mostly in the south and they're well contained on a single island. The rest of the country has to deal with communists.

I'll be right smack in the middle of the island chain....so it'll be against either commies or islamics, or neither.

06-26-07 12:21 AM

Perhaps the US should do this.

Mexico's Immigration Law: Let's Try It Here at Home:
Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:
* in the country legally;
* have the means to sustain themselves economically;
* not destined to be burdens on society;
* of economic and social benefit to society;
* of good character and have no criminal records; and * contributors to the general well-being of the nation.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.p...t=yes&id=14632

The Avon Lady 06-26-07 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by P_Funk
Its hard to believe that the legacy of Pierre Trudeau is already dead.

Oh please! :roll:

Legacy, part 1

Legacy, part 2


UPDATE: Ahahahahaha :rotfl:

Very nice. Spit on the memory of my country's greatest leader.

If appropriate, I will not hesitate. But the 2 documentaries speak for themselves.
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Your ignorance is nearly as offensive as your mockery.
Pray tell, dear sir, what ignorance are you referring to? That lots of Canadians adored, nay, worshipped Trudeau? Check. That he held Canada together in more ways than one? Check. But above and beyond that, to swoon at the sound of his name and ignore his hero worship of some of the brutalist regimes since WWII? Well, that sir, would appear to be your ignorance. Check.
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I suppose you get some satisfaction from this of course, obviously since you choose to ignore your intellect and make shots like this.
Snore.
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A completely fatuous reamark without any real point other than your repeatedly obvious disdain for the left.
If the shoe fits and if justifiably so, then what exactly is your gripe?
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People around here make legitimate criticisms of Israel and the USA and it gets branded anti-US or anti-Israel,
Some are legitimate, others are absolutely convoluted.
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yet you don't hesitate to make such an obviously inflammatory remark in passing.

You really are pathetic, AL.
Who cares! :roll:


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