:doh: I'm confused. Isn't the indexer "stuck" at 65' until you lock your target and send its ID to the stadimeter. Afterward, the indexer (supposedly ... I haven't tried it yet) rotates to indicate the proper mast height. Are you saying that you can then (after sending target ID) move the indexer somewhere else (like, for instance, deck or funnel height)? And get a correct range reading when you take a stadimeter shot?

Allmost korrect.

You just DON'T id the target first. You simply just slide the marker to the known height of the object you are checking out, be it a funnel, the top deck, the lower deck or even the captains willi.

The marker is NOT tied to 64 - mine was untill i checked out my commands.cfg file that had an error. That error blocked my marker from being moved with the mouse.

What was the error?

Quoting my self :know:

But of course. I made that same check after I saw your original post. :ahoy:

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I will have to try this.

Setting the range for manual targeting has definately been a PITA for me. Now at least I have a better understanding of this particular phase and the values on the dials.

Considering distance is the most crucial element for the style of calculation I am doing, this should help me greatly.

Thanks,
Mr Sargyano

so is this still needed for stock v1.5? and if so is the editing still the same?

Yes and yes.

I've been using this excellent tweak for longest. :up:

so would this be considered a game "fix" or not?

I'd consider it a fix ... actually, two versions of the same fix. Ottos' original mod works just fine as long as you input mast height (assuming you want an accurate mast height) via the recognition manual check box. The second version gives you the option to manually adjust both target range and mast height.

Personally, I've never found the need to manually adjust mast height. I use the second method only because ... well, you never know when you'll need to manually adjust something.

ok, i will add it to my "game fixes only" mod list

Hi - been away for some time now -

The beauty of the option 2 i described some time back in this thread is that you get the freedom to do as the real skippers did. They could not see the mast top as great distances, but they could see the funnel top. lots of boats even had their masts changed either by chance or on purpose to throw off the sub's aims.

AFAIK the real skippers counted "decks" and multiplied the amount of decks with 9 ft. (might have been 8 ft.). So say you in midst of night can see the sea surface and the top of the funnel. You can make the siluette out to be a specific boat and look it up in the Rec. manual and find the funnel height to be 24ft. then you slide the marker to 24 and make your stadimeter reading from that. Bingo!

well i would like to include option 2 of this in my "game fixes only" mod so if anyone wants to do it in a downloadable mod for stock v1.5 of the game it would be very helpfull so i could download it and post the link. i just request it be kept to just the fix and not extras so it stays as a stand alone fix.


just tell me who to credit as it looks to me like several of you figured this out.

Won't it mess up the "Dials.cfg" file for any other dials mod if you install a DL that only contains a "manual distance/mast height input" mod?

the key would be to apply the changes from one into the other, as example take any dials mod and just apply the changes above to the dials.cfg in that mod and that would solve the conflict.

the whole point of my mod is to create a better starting point for all mods by having the game in an as fixed as possible state and then begin with adding mods.

it does mean some mods would need minor updating or tweaking to include all the fixes i have applied that might touch on files they modded but this should be easy enough for anyone to do for themself if the modder doesnt want to bother changing anything. in a worse case situation you would only lose some of the fixes in my mod if they were overwritten but thats all.

:hmm2: In other words (if I have this right), you're collecting a bunch of smaller mods, compiling them, and will then offer us a larger "fix" mod? Which would actually be more of a modder's "patch" (as opposed to a mod) for borked parts of the game?

yes thats the idea, im also hoping it gives a better starting point for all mods so that fixes dont need to be included in most mods and then smaller sized mods can concentrate on just modding stuff.

like a home made patch to try and finish what ubisoft didnt fix

Sounds like a good idea. I don't have an account with any of the "Filefront"-like websites ... but all you need to do to fix range input is as follows:
Edit: Or just copy and paste the following:

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