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Ziem 04-12-07 08:24 PM

Zeer mooi......ben trots op je!!!!!
:D :D


Z.

Fearless 04-12-07 09:29 PM

Ja, dat is zeer mooi. :D

Reaves 04-13-07 12:57 AM

Great mod thanks!

I wish more Australians knew about the sacrifices made by the Dutch in the Pacific theatre. If it wasn't for you and the Yanks we'd be a nice part of the Empire of Japan.

:know:

L3TUC3 04-13-07 03:55 AM

Ok, v0.2 is up. Check the startpost for the link and changelog.

The battle of the Java Sea quick mission is a real resourcehog. I have a fairly beefy computer and it was even brought to it's knees by the mayhem going on. There is a lot, and I mean a LOT of shooting going on right of the bat (2 CA 2 CL 10 DD vs 2 CA 3 CL and 9 DD's to your south and a convoy of +/- 25 ships to your north). This is accurate as both sides fired thousands of shells with in the end only 5 or 6 hits. I don't know the outcome of every battle because of the simulation part in SHIV, the one given I do know is that I gave every ship a poor or novice crew rating (with the exception of the convoy DD's they don't partake in the battle). This is to simulate the fatigued ABDA crews and the Jap's lack of torpedo's.

The battle in real life lasted well into the night, but for the sake of the game and your system they'll only fight for about 30 minutes in game. The ABDA will turn tail to Surabaya and the IJN will return to it's merry invasion tour.

I've also noticed some strange problems with the range of the cruiser guns; their range seems to be exactly the same as the destroyers. I'm not sure why, but I'll bet someone will figure it out soon enough.

For the rest I'll try to figure out a way to get some placeholders for the planes and research some more to make the quick mission more historically correct.

bigboywooly 04-13-07 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L3TUC3

Also, the excellent pack3d tool by Sansal doesn't seem to like planes and subs very much so those are gonna be in a bit later.

.

Try versions 2 and 3 of Pack3d
The latest version doesnt open aircraft or the subs

You can get all versions of pack3d here if you dont have them all

http://files.filefront.com/P3dAllVer.../fileinfo.html

:up:

tater 04-13-07 11:43 AM

I was messing around with a night surface action, and the game is really poor for doing surface engagements since the DDs don't use their primary weapons---their torpedos.

This is a major failing, IMO.

As for the CA guns, I have a feeling all the guns are limited to the overly short visibility distance of the game.

As it is, I think it's better for players to stay the heck away from any battles since they will be pretty disappoiting, IMO.

tater

java`s revenge 04-13-07 04:51 PM

[quote=LukeFF]I like the story about this Dutch minesweeper:

"HNMS Abraham Crijnssen


The Crijnssen gathered fame during the Second World War, because of her spectacular escape from Surabaya to Australia in March 1942. Covered with treebranches, the minesweeper crossed the Japanese naval lines camouflaged as a tropical island."


That`s a real happened story!! I have been on that ship last year. It lays in
the dutch navy museum at Den Helder. For every dutchman i say get there and
enjoy!!

Really fantastic story how that could done to escape the japanese navy.

java`s revenge 04-13-07 04:55 PM

Guys,
I become very lunatic now. I have asked this 2 months ago to add the dutch
navy vessels.

My grandpa have served onto the

- java
- sumatra
- hertog hendrik
- Z7
- van Speijk
- Gelderland

So you can maybe understand that i am very proud now that i can see some
dutch vessels into the game.

When somebody want to know more details or photo`s, i have it all.
I own a book The cruisers Java and Sumatra and many other photo`s.
Maybe i can help to model the ships. You tell me!!

Btw i am surprised to read correct details under this subject.
Great guys!!!

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L3TUC3
I'm working on a Quick mission right now using the placeholders from 0.1 and I've stumbled into some factual errors from UBI.

Basicly when I spawned the ABDACOM fleet they were immediatly taken under fire from jap coastal batteries and sunk.

Rather odd considering the port was still in Dutch hands at the time. I've altered the jap_coastalbatteries.mis a bit so the batteries don't appear around Surabaya until well into april. Takes some time to build em I suppose.

Anyway during my first run the 3 java (houston class in disguise) class got beat by two destroyers and a light cruiser. So far so good.

No that isn`t so far so good. The Java was hitted by a japanese sub. The Java
had mines stored in the backside of the ship. A torpedoe hitted that area.
Java Sunk within 15 minutes.

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:22 PM

Btw here follows some. I begin with the most beautiful one.
The Ruyter,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...-De_Ruyter.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...eruyter6ls.jpg

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:22 PM

The Sumatra,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...a1939Small.jpg

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:24 PM

The Java,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../javaSmall.jpg

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:24 PM

The Hertog Hendrik,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...drik3Small.jpg

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:25 PM

The Gelderland,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...thumbSmall.jpg

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:26 PM

2 O subs near the Kiel canal,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...0977Medium.jpg

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:27 PM

Some dutch destroyers,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...0973Medium.jpg

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:28 PM

And finally The K VII sub,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...0972Medium.jpg

L3TUC3 04-13-07 05:28 PM

I know it's not correct, but as the game is right now, it's impossible for destroyers to fire torpedos. Also the ranges on the guns are way off. As soon as someone fixes those things I'll try to make the battle more lifelike (although you're in a sub, there weren't any around during the battle afaik).

We'll have to do with them appearing at a certain date and disappearing after they complete their round for now.

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:32 PM

I am proud on you!!

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:39 PM

Here is a drawing of the battle.
Its in dutch but i hope you will understand it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...zee-schema.jpg


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