Ah oh. Really? Have I gone off the deep end? :D Or is it because you don't understand? Whats wrong with giving them nukes? It would take them 50 years to miniturize it enough to bring over here anyway, and by that time, if history is my guide, they would have nuked each other back to the stone age already.

-S

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Can't belive that the British let themselved get captured ..... AGAIN. Do they not know how to shoot those rifles?

Look at this BS....

Coincidence? Nope! :nope:

Update: Actually, it appears im wrong here. Washington had already suggested the trip may be delayed before this occured. My baaaaad.

Britain is going to try and talk them out of there, guaranteed. Me, personally. I'd demand they be returned immediately or else I "nukkz0rz dere countryz0rz" :rotfl:

How many people knew of this?

:o:o:arrgh!::arrgh!::huh::huh:

This was NOT a smart move by the Iranians as the Brits are already wanting to leave Iraq alone, so there's more than just political grandstanding at work here.

This is pure speculation, but I believe Iran wants to keep the Brits in the area for awhile longer, for how long and for what purpose I don't know. The one thing I do know is that if the SAS gets involved the Iranians are going to feel it for sure.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ankrunover.gif

Heh, I always figured Iran would start threatening the Saudi oil ways, then again, it wouldn't exactly take a genius to figure out the most valuable commodity leaving the Gulf would it? :know:

According to a link on the Subsim front page, Iran launched a fairly large naval exercise yesterday too...saber rattling or the prelude to something bigger? :damn:

When the U.S. navy attacked Libya the entire Libyan navy was destroyed in 30 minutes. I'm curious to see if that record can be beat.

Would'nt suprise me if this is just absurd reprisal for the US detaining Iranians in Iraq.

Having said that, it's a dumb move on Irans part. They are testing the worlds patience, and the world is running out of it. Let them harm a hair on a British servicemans head. That would be genius. Pull the temple down on your own head. I'd be fully prepared if I were blair to go on TV and say "release my boys, or you will regret it."

And in the words of the fictional President Bartlett (again):
"If the admiral has to call this kids parents, im going to wipe them off the face of the earth with God's own thunder." :stare:

I've always been against military action against Iran until all other options are exhausted. The Iranians have been getting to big for their boots for some time now. This was a bad step in a bad direction for them.

Maybe we can Sic Saudi Arabia on them, let them take care of the land war for us. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...es/badidea.gif

Do we really know all about what has happened?

The UK claimes the boats had been forced into Iranian waters and then their crews got arrested. That would be kind of kidnapping.

Iran claims they arrested the crews of the boats after they had breached the maritime border. That would be legal military action in a case of self-defense.

How do we know who is telling the truth?

We only know that both countries have interests and agendas in the region and with regard to the nuclear crisis. And both countries seek propaganda coups with their people's public opinions.

For me the information basis is too thin to make any conclusions and judgements yet.

Mind you that it would not be the first time that an agressive act at sea would have been triggered - Tonking, for example, or the US recce plane collision close to the Chinese coast in -when was it? 2002? Mind you also that it would not be the first time that Iran takes hostages - the US embassy crisis, the incident with the British navy in 2004.

Lets go silent running and listen for a while. If they go pinging we can start firing at them soon enough. No matter who "them" is.

If Iran wanted to play down tension, they'd arrest them, hold them and then release them within a few hours.

If the sailors are still being held then I doubt that the Iranians are playing fair games here. Of course nobody has been playing on an even field in this entire mess?

As I said, both nations seek for propaganda coups.

we simply have no independant cionfirmation for what has happend. we do not know yet what has happened.

This is no attempt of mine to sympathise with the Iranians. It's just that I have not enough information to build an opinion yet. We only have statements from the British and Iranian governments. Both are not trustworthy and need independant confirmation.

I guess all we can do is sit it out and see what happens....maybe the Brit soldiers were trying to do this just for the fun of it: http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...crosswater.gif

Ah, one human rights-abusive country battering another for the US? Whatever floats your boat.

EDIT: I must be in a bad mood, didnt mean to sound so narky :)

It was a http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...sarcasm_on.gif moment. (if the bad buld icon wasn't clear enough....it's kinda hard to see with the smart dark background).

Brain must be having an off day.

On the whole, I'm with Skybird on this one, wait it out

I think its provacation. They are itching for an excuse for something. What it is, I am not certain of.

One thing is for certain - they will use this incident as an excuse to rile up their own people by saying the British trespassed.

-S

Its simple - if they're not released immediately, then Iran oughta learn a little lesson. but im impatient. One report of maltreatment once the poms are released and Iran will learn a lesson anyways.

As for the record set by the US against Libya - I reckon it'll be done in 20 mins flat.





Oh and by the way, im back now fellas:)

More news here

Apparently the British sailors have 'confessed' to being in Iranian waters, whilst under interrogation in Tehran. The Iranian armed forces spokesman says they're in 'sterling health' but then again, I should imagine he would...

Now we'll see if Blair has any balls to demand the return of the sailors or Iran starts losing parts of its Navy... :ping: