Am I the only one who had plenty of fun with vanilla SH3?

No I played V SHIII for 3 months without any kind of mod. (ok I lied I did edit the annoying Crew thing after the first patrol)

Me too.

One of the best $50 I ever spent.

JCC

http://www.webdelsol.com/The_Potomac/issue2/crybaby.jpg

I think this is a more appropriate award.

Vanilla SHIII - w/ the first two patches was pretty good- and loads of fun.

(a damn, now my avatar is that "washed-out" Bing Crosby as a sailor looking guy :( )

Now, now, this is a thread whining, complaining, and drama queening about SHIV.

I think it is highly inappropriate to show a picture of Winston Churchill in that context.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I am going to do some homework, may that will get my mind off of SH4, NOT!!!

He'll do some waiting and go into the software shop in Dallas and pick it up
and hold it in his hands and read the box and sniff it and wonder if he should
buy it and then say, "What the heck it's the buy in that counts"
just like in a real crap game, it's the buy in ...
win or lose you had a chance to be part of something great. :cool:

he'll be back ... won't you jack :yep: ...

I mean Deep-Six ... :up:

I just think its a shame you spend the money to the developer and publisher and then have to rely on the moders to give you what you want and the game you paid for. Thank good for modders as they have made games that play for years instead of days but still.

Ubi states this game has been in development since SHIII so that should tell someone back in Romania that all the things they did wrong in SHIII needs to be fixed in SHIV as well as taking all the nice things the modders did and incorporate it.

I'm getting the game regardless but I'm still disappointed in the developers for the lack of completion in the game.

Hey who invited you and your doom and gloom? :arrgh!: To the plank with you.

Well, in Australia the thing is $99. If it's full of significant bugs and actaully NEEDS mods to be 'proper' and actually 'work as it should' (both these concepts being very subjective) then there is certainly a case for saving the $$ and buying it a year or so after initial release.

I purchased SHIII for $19 and installed NYGM immediately. Great sim!! Was it great out of the box, however? For me, no - more of a shell with the potential to be absolutely brilliant.

I wonder if it pisses of the developers having to release something they KNOW isn't 'complete' i.e. doesn't actually perform per the manual, or has lots of minor graphics/sound bugs etc....??

Personally, it would drive ME nuts having to do that.

Anyway, EB Games has a great policy: buy something and you can return it within a week for a full credit. Thus get to try it for a week and decide if it's worth the dollars. Perfect!!

NB: NOT slagging the game. I am more commenting on the general issue of a release with significant issues remaining (something depressingly common in the computer game world), and how to get around the issue of paying premium $$ before mods have a chance to 'complete' things as they did in SHIII.

Wait for the patches and make a decision then .:up:

Yep, I paid my $52.00 and will pick up tomorrow at EB Games. No intention of returning. EB is a great store. My kids trade in games for cash or new games.:rock:

Since Gamestop (in usa at least) bought them out that policy is no longer valid. You can return an Unopened Box for something else. But after its open you have only 7 days to return it for the same product. (IE if you have bad disk or something). EB has gone down the tubes since gamestop bought them out. No more PC trade ins etc... Sad really.

No worries. I do not plan on returning because I know this too shall pass and it will be a great game. If I cry loud enough in EB I'll get what I want. I'm in and out of there with my kids every week.

Well, we can still do trade-ins here in Australia. Maybe if we're quiet nobody will notice....:rotfl: :rotfl:

To be honest it does not surprise me. PC games in USA have Pretty much fallen to the way side. 5 years ago they had half a wall for PC games. Today they have a Small shelf in the middle of the floor. I totally expect the game stores to stop carry them in next 2-3 years.

They seem to still be going strong overseas though. All the good games are made overseas today.