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Foghladh_mhara 03-09-07 09:05 AM

Maybe we're victims of our own propaganda? WW2 was fed to the british and american people as the struggle of democracy against evil fascism. The allies stood for all that was good the axis powers for all that was arrogant and bad. Even in todays context the words allies and axis have certain connotations. I AM NOT HOWEVER SAYING THAT FASCISM WAS GOOD OR THAT EVIL WAS NOT DONE!!! Every book I ever read as a kid reinforced the belief that the allies were the good guys. It can be a bit unpalatable to find out then as Mush Martin points out that the good guys were not immune to a bit of carpet bombing or in the case of Wahoo the shooting of people in the water.

bigboywooly 03-09-07 09:26 AM

Back to topic lol

This pic is 39/40 and you can see what looks like the red cross on the funnel of the liner
Lazarettschiff D

http://www.wilhelmgustloff.com/image...otos/mp_ld.jpg

Heibges 03-09-07 03:00 PM

The sad part of the book, is that for a long time the Germans were not allowed to grieve over the horrors they endured.

Curtis LeMay was a big fat head, who did everything he did for job security.

As opposed to Hyman Rickover who did everything he did to protect his country.

joea 03-09-07 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heibges
The sad part of the book, is that for a long time the Germans were not allowed to grieve over the horrors they endured.

Curtis LeMay was a big fat head, who did everything he did for job security.

As opposed to Hyman Rickover who did everything he did to protect his country.

I agree it was sad, respect to Rickover.

Kaleu_Mihoo 03-09-07 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly
Back to topic lol

This pic is 39/40 and you can see what looks like the red cross on the funnel of the liner
Lazarettschiff D

http://www.wilhelmgustloff.com/image...otos/mp_ld.jpg

you're right about it, but later it was painted in standard german grey (like an ordinary transport) without any red cross markings. So Marinesko couldn't recognize it as a hospital ship, especially by night attack. Sad but true, but this has nothing to do with war crimes etc.

greets

bigboywooly 03-09-07 05:21 PM

Thanx Kaleu
Not managed to find a pic from late war yet

Guessed it didnt stay that way for long as was a troopship


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