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Gizzmoe 02-19-07 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris
I'm confident I'll already be able to play SH4 ok

Yes, youŽll be.

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but I want to be able to play Crysis when it comes out, which is DX10 only.
Crysis supports DX9 and DX10 (Pixel Shader 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0).

Boris 02-19-07 02:55 PM

Really? I always thought they delayed the release of Crysis because they were waiting for DX10 to become the norm.
I guess I don't have to rush into things then. I'll wait and see what Crysis plays like and if it's worth the extra power. It's a while till release anyway.

SUBMAN1 02-19-07 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris
Really? I always thought they delayed the release of Crysis because they were waiting for DX10 to become the norm.
I guess I don't have to rush into things then. I'll wait and see what Crysis plays like and if it's worth the extra power. It's a while till release anyway.

Crysis will play the same on DX9 as it will on DX10. DX9.0 F is on the way to support PS 4.0 and everything else DX10 does for XP.

-S

Gizzmoe 02-19-07 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
DX9.0 F is on the way to support PS 4.0 and everything else DX10 does for XP.

Source?

SUBMAN1 02-19-07 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
DX9.0 F is on the way to support PS 4.0 and everything else DX10 does for XP.

Source?

Seems I am behind the times. They are way beyond F and going to L!!! Wow - missed that change. ANyway, more info can be found here:

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35110

-S

geetrue 02-19-07 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Crysis will play the same on DX9 as it will on DX10. DX9.0 F is on the way to support PS 4.0 and everything else DX10 does for XP.
-S

I read somewhere that DX10 will only be for Vista and how come no one has posted about Vista after it came out, yet?

SUBMAN1 02-19-07 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Crysis will play the same on DX9 as it will on DX10. DX9.0 F is on the way to support PS 4.0 and everything else DX10 does for XP.
-S

I read somewhere that DX10 will only be for Vista and how come no one has posted about Vista after it came out, yet?

DX10 is a rework of DX9 to incorporate a few additional features, but mainly it is written to support the new glass desktop natively. This desktop will not ever be on XP, but the added features in DX10 will be in the form of DX9L. From what I hear, DX9L will be a bit more efficient so your games may actually play fast on 9.0L than 10.

I am not too keen to load Vista. I have 10 copies of biz ed of Vista here, but I haven't bothered to upgrade anyone yet since it lacks support for a few of my software apps that are critical to this business. I have a friend stopping by the MS store later today, and I thought I might get him to get me a copy of Ultimate, but then again, I like the way my home system is right now, so I told him no for now. I agonized about it for a bit. I'll probably still get a copy of Ultimate, but it will be a slow transition for me since it gives me nothing over what I already have now outside of a better GUI.

Just my thoughts on the subject. Now that I am rambling, I'll just quit here.

-S

Boris 02-19-07 05:17 PM

Well, that completely squashes my need for Vista any time in the near future.

flintlock 02-19-07 08:06 PM

You guys have DX9.0L all backwards.

DX9.0L is for Vista only. It's there so you can play DX9.0x games on Vista (mainly there for Aero though). It's not a DX10 for WinXP.

So Boris, if you plan on playing DX10 games, you're going to need Vista. Unfortunately, WinXP will have no API to support it.

Boris 02-19-07 08:43 PM

Well thats just awesome :shifty:

geetrue 02-19-07 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I am not too keen to load Vista. I have 10 copies of biz ed of Vista here, but I haven't bothered to upgrade anyone yet since it lacks support for a few of my software apps that are critical to this business. I have a friend stopping by the MS store later today, and I thought I might get him to get me a copy of Ultimate, but then again, I like the way my home system is right now, so I told him no for now. I agonized about it for a bit. I'll probably still get a copy of Ultimate, but it will be a slow transition for me since it gives me nothing over what I already have now outside of a better GUI.

Just my thoughts on the subject. Now that I am rambling, I'll just quit here.

-S

When you say, "I'll probably still get a copy of Ultimate" Do you mean Ultimate Home? Because I have found "Ultimate Home" for only $109 including free shipping and I have an old hdd laying around I could put it on to test games like SH4 and FSX, just to see for myself till they come up with better drivers, etc.

No doubt in my mind Vista will be our main OS sooner or later ... :yep:

elite_hunter_sh3 02-19-07 09:40 PM

good luck fitting this bastard uber card into ur cases lol 12.4 inches long.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2350/r600xtxjv8.jpg

geetrue 02-19-07 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
good luck fitting this bastard uber card into ur cases lol 12.4 inches long.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2350/r600xtxjv8.jpg

Just need an extra size case with the right female plugs ... :rotfl: :rotfl:

flintlock 02-19-07 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue
When you say, "I'll probably still get a copy of Ultimate" Do you mean Ultimate Home? Because I have found "Ultimate Home" for only $109

Just for clarification: there is no "Ultimate Home."

You have: Business, Home Basic, Home Premium and Ultimate. There's also Enterprise, but that doesn't factor in here.

geetrue 02-19-07 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by flintlock
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Originally Posted by geetrue
When you say, "I'll probably still get a copy of Ultimate" Do you mean Ultimate Home? Because I have found "Ultimate Home" for only $109

Just for clarification: there is no "Ultimate Home."

You have: Business, Home Basic, Home Premium and Ultimate. There's also Enterprise, but that doesn't factor in here.

I went back and checked ... your right ... I scan too fast. So is Home Premium worth a try?

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (1-Pack DVD), OEM free shipping special price $117.00

flintlock 02-19-07 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue
So is Home Premium worth a try?

The price is good for an OEM version. To be honest, unless you have a burning need to move to Vista, I'd sit tight with WinXP. Especially so if you have an NVIDIA graphics card. I'd give it time for the dust to settle and allow for some mature drivers to start circulating -- some early adopters are wishing they had.

Gizzmoe 02-20-07 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Seems I am behind the times. They are way beyond F and going to L!!! Wow - missed that change. ANyway, more info can be found here:

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35110

-S

You posted that link already about a month ago, that information is wrong:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=26

elite_hunter_sh3 02-20-07 06:51 AM

Dx 10 For Win Xp Not Happening End Of Story!!!:|\\

vista wasnt released for nothing you know!, stupid microsoft dam their monopoly. bill gates is always finding ways to make more money,

flintlock 02-21-07 11:42 AM

R600 will not launch this quarter.
 
ATI R600 will NOT launch this quarter!

Excerpt:

"The reason is that their R600 Series is not where they want it to be yet, so they decided to move the launch to be able to deliver a competitive product. Also I am hearing that at the Q2 launch we will see more than just GPU related stuff, so I would guess Physics or GPGPU computing."


Source:
http://www.techpowerup.com/?25870

geetrue 02-21-07 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by flintlock
ATI R600 will NOT launch this quarter!

Excerpt:

"The reason is that their R600 Series is not where they want it to be yet, so they decided to move the launch to be able to deliver a competitive product. Also I am hearing that at the Q2 launch we will see more than just GPU related stuff, so I would guess Physics or GPGPU computing."

Source:
http://www.techpowerup.com/?25870


probably because of Vista or GPU cooling ...

Why be first on the block for DX10 with no DX10 or why be the first to melt down your computer and turn everybody else off?


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