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hyperion2206 02-17-07 04:56 AM

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Not being able to promote past KptLt was always a bummer to me. Anyone remember AOD? That was fully fleshed out rankwise as i recall.

Are you sure? The highest rank I could achieve was Korvettenkapitän. What was your highest rank, Ducimus?:o

Geez, that was years ago, i dont remember the max rank you could achieve in AOD, i only know i maxed it and it was a bump or two higher then KptLt. :D

You must have been a lucky bastard!:p:lol:

Kpt. Kozloff 02-17-07 08:18 AM

Hey mel, try this!
I've just finished a 3rd patrol. Well i started as a Lieutnant, after 1st patrol i was promoted to Oberlieutnant but when i exited the game it went back to Lieutnant. Then after 2nd patrol they promoted me to Kaleun, but when i exited the game it went back to Lieutnant again, although when i load a career, in the left hand corner box it states i'm a Kaleun (Kapitanlieutnant). What do you make of this?!
:huh:

melnibonian 02-17-07 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Kozloff
Hey mel, try this!
I've just finished a 3rd patrol. Well i started as a Lieutnant, after 1st patrol i was promoted to Oberlieutnant but when i exited the game it went back to Lieutnant. Then after 2nd patrol they promoted me to Kaleun, but when i exited the game it went back to Lieutnant again, although when i load a career, in the left hand corner box it states i'm a Kaleun (Kapitanlieutnant). What do you make of this?!
:huh:

As Jaesen said in a previous post the promotion system is a bit tricky in SH3, as it is linked with your current renown. If your renown is enough for a promotion (the RankLevel value that is) then you will get it. If on the other hand your current renown is less than the required one for your rank then you lose the rank. That's my understanding of it at least. I have managed (with Jaesen halp and suggestions) to promote myself in a high rank and the game has absolutelly no problem of recognising it. The only problems I had so far is to make this promotion system (to ranks above KptLt) automatic with the renown in SH3. Unfortunatelly you have to edit the files yourself if you need to get high ranks but you must have quite a bit of renown (if you don't want to edit the RankLevel3) to keep the rank. If you need more info let me know:D

Kpt. Kozloff 02-17-07 12:24 PM

Thanks mel,
I'll keep that in mind, although the trick with continuing career (going onto next patrol) straight after promotion seems to be the one to go for.
Cheerio.:up:

emtmedic005 03-28-07 02:06 PM

hey thanks for the info, I did wat it said to do and i changed some files and words, and when i loaded up SH3 Commander and it said i was a KORVETTENKAPITÄN, so i was promoted. I loaded up my profile and said i was promoted the 5th of january 1942. So im Commander Erich Hansen now, haha.

So do i have to add another Rank Level spot so i can keep getting promoted?

melnibonian 03-28-07 03:22 PM

The game does not support any rank higher than Fregattenkapitän (which is Rank Level 14 if I remember correctly). So as long as you can rank yourself up to 14 you're OK. Make sure though that you have enough renown to avoid being demoted by SH3Cmd.

Happy Times 05-10-07 07:00 PM

How do i change the renown values to capital ships so that if i sink one, i get a promotion and KN?:hmm:

edit. I kicked every capital ships renown value up to 8000, wonder what that will do?

Shelton 08-27-07 06:05 AM

so what happens if you spend your renown on the latest stuff - does that mean you cannot get promoted?

Jimbuna 08-27-07 06:38 AM

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so what happens if you spend your renown on the latest stuff - does that mean you cannot get promoted?

You purhase upgraded and new equipment using the renown you amass as a result of what you sink. Similarly your rank is gained via what renown you have.
It is possible that by spending some of your renown to purchase equipment may result in you being demoted due to the fact you no longer have sufficient renown to maintain a certain rank. :arrgh!:

Chisum 03-17-08 04:11 PM

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I just know from reading posts here over the last two years that no-one has ever seemed to get beyond KptLt "in-game".

If I set the rank up in main.cfg in C\My Documents\SH3 will it make a difference? Is there a way I can 'cheat' using SH3Cmd to pop up my rank?

You can change your rank anytime manually simply by incrementing the *last* PlayerRank value found in Careers_0.cfg (to force it to start from your next patrol).

13 will be the highest number you can go to. Although, you may be able to get to 14 by also making this change to *_menu.txt:

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170=Leutnant z. S.; Oberleutnant z. S.
171=Oberleutnant z. S.; Kapitänleutnant
172=Kapitänleutnant; Korvettenkapitän
173=Korvettenkapitän; Fregattenkapitän
174=Fregattenkapitän;Kapitän z. S. <- add in orange text BEFORE semicolon

And if you change your rank this way, SH3Cmdr will be happy, as this is not across the board rank bumping - SH3Cmdr will simply see it as a promotion like any other.

Oh, you may need to tweak your renown so that you don't lose your new promotion, or alternatively lower the RankLevel3 value, but try without first.

Let us know how you go.

Many thanks !!

Question.
It seems that the maximum still FregattenKapitan because "175=Exit To Menu".
No way out.

But, if I change all to begin the career(1939) with a level over Oberleutnant(ie: 164=Oberleutnant z. S.) it will be possible to go higher in the hierarchy ??

melnibonian 03-18-08 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chisum
Many thanks !!

Question.
It seems that the maximum still FregattenKapitan because "175=Exit To Menu".
No way out.

But, if I change all to begin the career(1939) with a level over Oberleutnant(ie: 164=Oberleutnant z. S.) it will be possible to go higher in the hierarchy ??

I have no idea mate. I would suggest you give it a try and let us know ;)

SmokinTep 03-18-08 12:16 PM

I'm happy being a seaman duece.............:lol:

Chisum 03-18-08 02:07 PM

Hum...
I just think right now that it's not possible like I explain before, because "164" is the rank for the other officers.

For the player, everything begin at "170".

The only way should be by changing since 170:

Original:

170=Leutnant z. S.; Oberleutnant z. S.
171=Oberleutnant z. S.; Kapitänleutnant
172=Kapitänleutnant; Korvettenkapitän
173=Korvettenkapitän; Fregattenkapitän
174=Fregattenkapitän; Kapitän z. S.

After change:

170=Oberleutnant z. S.; Kapitänleutnant
171=Kapitänleutnant; Korvettenkapitän
172=Korvettenkapitän; Fregattenkapitän
173=Fregattenkapitän; Kapitän z. S.
174=Kapitän z. S.; Kommodore

( http://www.feldgrau.com/kmsranks.html )

I try it soon, I'm only KapitänLeutnant actually and inside mission.
Let me back home to watch.

Tessa 03-20-08 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chisum
Hum...
I just think right now that it's not possible like I explain before, because "164" is the rank for the other officers.

For the player, everything begin at "170".

The only way should be by changing since 170:

Original:

170=Leutnant z. S.; Oberleutnant z. S.
171=Oberleutnant z. S.; Kapitänleutnant
172=Kapitänleutnant; Korvettenkapitän
173=Korvettenkapitän; Fregattenkapitän
174=Fregattenkapitän; Kapitän z. S.

After change:

170=Oberleutnant z. S.; Kapitänleutnant
171=Kapitänleutnant; Korvettenkapitän
172=Korvettenkapitän; Fregattenkapitän
173=Fregattenkapitän; Kapitän z. S.
174=Kapitän z. S.; Kommodore

( http://www.feldgrau.com/kmsranks.html )

I try it soon, I'm only KapitänLeutnant actually and inside mission.
Let me back home to watch.

The change does work, though not sure about using 174 yet. There is a snag if you use SHIII Commander. Each time you launch the game through the SHIII Commander GUI it resets the ranks to the original ones. If you try to mark the file read only SHIII Commander will crash and give you an error. Long as you launch the game via the GWX icon everything works, as well as all the functionality of SHIII Commander.

Also would be wise to revise the reknown settings for promotion, being a Fregattenkapitän with only 15k reknown seems abit on the unreasonable sign.

Chisum 03-20-08 07:13 AM

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Also would be wise to revise the reknown settings for promotion, being a Fregattenkapitan with only 15k reknown seems abit on the unreasonable sign.

Where can I do that ?

Thanks.

Tessa 03-20-08 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tessa
Also would be wise to revise the reknown settings for promotion, being a Fregattenkapitan with only 15k reknown seems abit on the unreasonable sign.

Where can I do that ?

Thanks.

The Basic.cfg file has all the settings for the ranks and the corresponding reknown needed.

Chisum 03-21-08 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tessa
The Basic.cfg file has all the settings for the ranks and the corresponding reknown needed.

Ok I suppose it's this:

[PROMOTIONS]
RenownStep0=500
RenownStep1=1000
RenownStep2=1500
RenownStep3=2000

And what you suggest ?
Also, must I add a "RenownStep4=" ?

Thanks to your help mate.
;)

Tessa 03-21-08 07:07 AM

The next section is what you're looking for:

[PLAYER_RENOWN]
AcademyBonus=1000
RankLevel0=0; SCORE
RankLevel1=1499; SCORE
RankLevel2=7999; SCORE
RankLevel3=14999; SCORE

To add the 4th rank it'd look like:

RankLevel4=29999; SCORE

Chisum 03-26-08 09:31 PM

It seems that it works good, I'm now KorvettenKapitän dec 15 1941 after my 7th patrol and 208 000 t down:

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3769/kkpitanaj3.jpg

Renown is set easy to watch how it works. Better adjust later.

But sadely, in SH3 Commander I still KapitänLeutnant...

Tessa 03-27-08 08:24 AM

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3...kapitancu8.jpg

So far with the changed values in the menu file everything seems to be working.

With this particular career chose to use the VIIB sub exclusively (till I can get the XXI :D ) so while I've run into a lot of convoy's; most of my tonnage comes from harbor raiding and sinking capital ships moored in them (300,000+ in warships, 270,000 or so in merchants).

Since changing the basic.cfg file and adding the extra values in the corresponding menu file, I've noticed that it usually takes a patrol (sometimes two) before every part of the game will recognize your new rank. As its still early enough in the war that harbor raiding hasn't yet become suicidal, there's a few more that I want to visit before the Brit's beef up their defense enough to make it not worth the effort.


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