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Morts 02-15-07 02:06 PM

its a homing torpedo:up:
you dont want that hunting you

AVGWarhawk 02-15-07 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooncatt
whats a FIDO???

As Morts stated. These were dropped by Allied aircraft. Just after the boat submerged the pilots would drop these. It would home in on the screws. Darn effective. So tough DD in GWX are good in my view because we do have it somewhat easy out there while in game.

Sonobouy also dropped. Could hear the uboat all day. Planes come and go for relief. The uboat boys were hating life when the CVE attack groups showed up in the neighborhood.

Mooncatt 02-15-07 02:26 PM

:o :o :o a homing fish eh, how the hell do you get away from that? use harsh language?

AVGWarhawk 02-15-07 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooncatt
:o :o :o a homing fish eh, how the hell do you get away from that? use harsh language?

You don't Sir. The Kaleun only hoped the FIDO would not pick them up. Sometime they did not, often they did. ASW in the later years was VERY effective. I just read a book Hunter/Killers about the CVE. The aircraft were very good and very aggressive. Radar/sonar/sonobouy/FIDO/DC. They meant business and business was good.

Mooncatt 02-15-07 02:34 PM

well if anything comes out with that in it we`re screwed then lol

AVGWarhawk 02-15-07 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooncatt
well if anything comes out with that in it we`re screwed then lol

There was attempts to make it work but not looking to good.

Mooncatt 02-15-07 02:48 PM

yeah i can imagine it wouldnt be easy to add something like that.

immortal44 02-15-07 06:06 PM

I get the distinct impression that we really have it easy in the game.

The allies knowing your position thanks to a status report would certainly change this (I'm not sure if it is in the game?).

AVGWarhawk 02-15-07 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by immortal44
I get the distinct impression that we really have it easy in the game.

The allies knowing your position thanks to a status report would certainly change this (I'm not sure if it is in the game?).

I believe this is modelled into the game. The book "Hunter/Killers US Escort Carriers in the Battle of the Atlantic" By William T Y'Blood. I have read quite a few of the u-boat books and I wanted to see what the Allies were up to. These guys had a lot of tools at their disposal to hunt and kill the boats. They were damn good at it. The CVE were made out of oil tanker hulls. Plenty of room for plane/ammo/fuel. In 1943, 27 boats sunk or captured. 1944, 22 boats sunk or captured. 1945 6 boats sunk or captured. Having enigma codes was also part of the arsenal. It is a good book and I recommend it highly. So in essence, if we had these bad boys after us as well, it would be quite ugly. Fortune for us GWX DD are good and hopefully overcome what is missing. I think it does it quite well.

High Voltage 02-15-07 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cobalt
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Originally Posted by Heibges
Also, Herbert Werner comes across as kind of a crybaby. He does something a military officer should never do, and that is blame something that goes wrong on someone else.

He blames his XO for the boat getting sunk by hitting a mine in harbor.
He blames his LI for not being able to keep proper trim.
He blames his Rosen and Doenitz for having to go to sea, despite extreme danger from Allied Radar.

are you serious?

his xo took the boat out without permission and got a of couple men killed.

his LI was obviously a new recruit and was not trained properly enough to keep the
boat trimmed.

Wouldnt you be pissed too if all your friends were dying?

a cry baby

wow

wowww

I agree with you 100% Cobalt.
Weber's XO bent the boat and killed 2 men, His LI had no business being on any boat without being qualified to execute this most basic and necessary of manoeuvres, and staying alive was hard enough already without being sent out on suicidal missions by officers too far removed to properly grasp/care about what was going on.

Imagine you've survived long enough for all of your friends to die, you realize at a certain point that the war is lost, you keep getting sent out on aimless patrols, guided by dangerous instructions, unable to properly defend yourself, and you can't even count on your crew to properly trim the boat.:down:

On a related note, Peter "Ali" Cremer's U-333 is an equally fascinating read, and a must for any aspiring Kaleun.:know:


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