I played stock for a year before I got Grey Wolves 1.1a. and had that for 5-6 months before GWX.

The stock is a good way to get a feel of the game before you start with GWX, NYGM. Dont bother with IuB or RuB because they wher TedyBar's (and Kpt. Lehmann's ?) first mods.

I played the stock SHIII for 3 months after it´s release march-05.
Then I came back to the game just before x-mas -06.
Think I played at least 35 patrols without any crew lost or damage to the boat.
Heck....I don´t even think I met a destroyer until mid-43.
My point is that the stock game is far to easy.

After reading a lot of posts here about GWX I decided to install that mod and SH-Commander.
I´m very happy I did. It looks alot nicer, more different ships to sink and a bigger challenge with all the tuff DD´s and airplanes. :rock:

/VV

Right! Play a few times with the Stock one, just so you can really compare what kind of improvment the modders have done to the game, once you install NYGM or GWX...or both!:rock::rock:

Im willing to bet, i could take the stock game, and make it HARDER then GWX. :smug:

edit: acutally ive always had the odd notion to make a mod compilation that alters stock the most dramatically with the smallest filesize of a mod release. Adding no new units, and using no graphics. But as ive said, nobody plays stock, waste of time. lol

The only reason i can think of to play stock is to pass the training missions. With gwx and nygm passing the gunnery, torpedo, and flak training missions is either very difficult or pretty much impossible

What's that?



Are yes it's all coming back to me now. ;)

Why would he bother with the Naval Academy!

NYGM is not based on renown.

SH3Commander - is everyone using this with their GWX ??? looks like this is just some nice add on for the medals and officer faces etc. ???

SH3Cmd and SH3Gen are a MUST in every version of SH3, and that includes GW/NYGM and GWX.:yep:

AFAIK SH3Cmdr is the most popular adittional programme to GWX :yep:

It does a lot more than that. Randomizes starting crew and experience, you can start in any flotilla in any month/year with any historically correct boat, you can fix time compression settings, you can create career files, it simulates crew transfers, sabotage/malfunctions....its a must!

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if I could only choose one mod or tool at all it would be SH3 Commander before any of the greatest mods. It's that important, as far as I'm concerned. Then I'd choose...



Sailor Steve's Das Boot Sound Mod conversion for SHIII!:rotfl:

SH3Commander is probably the single best universal mod ever made
There is so much more it adds to ANY version of the game
Even now it is under used

Nice plugs for SH3Comander...might finaly download it today. :hmm:

In my view I would play the vanilla version through a few patrols. Get a feel for what is missing and what would be good to add. Generally get a feel for using torps and navigation. Then load in GWX so you know for sure what these guys have done with SH3 is nothing short of a masterpiece:up:. At this point you become a mod junkie looking to score more and more. Beating up the GWX team to make more and create more. Then and only then will you truly appreciate the guys that mod and made this game whole:rock:

Words of wisdom from Steve. :up: