you gotta try no sidebar shortcut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no more sitting back with 1 click of the mouse!!! no more poppin around the u boat like a genie!!!! you will work for your kills!! that plus nygm 2.4 manual tdc etc etc ------------- new sim:yep:

By the way, wasn't someone working on manual navigation a while back? How'd that turn out?

And I'm running a 1x patrol in Dec '39 now, I'll try the manual moving around in the sub today. I've done it from time to tme but not exclusively.

But what's the big deal about the side shortcut bar...can't you just not use it if you want to move around the ship manually?

That is a quite good idea. But we have a little bit too few compartments in the boat to make it even more real. But it _should_ take more time to get to the periscope from your sonar station and back... Will give it a try. Thanks.

You can use dantenocs method thats what i use no sub icon on map, and ctrl click simulating the sextant if weather permits and using the speed charts provided in GWX if the weather doesnt permit, its an all new thing ;).

its 1 thing to have them there and not use them its a reaction to head right for them as soon as somthin happens in game---------- and another not havin at all --I like the game better without them -even without them shortcuts abound but at least it makes the player take steps and have to think instead of just --click--