Both S-class and Type II are pre WWII (i.e. inter-war) designs
However, S-class has a great preformance, i.e. "cooler" than those type II
my signatures shows a Type II, seems that I have to change it to a S-class
Those little bees would sting those stinking Japanese ships:D

http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/i...s-125_s-20.gif

Great news.
My father served on only one submarine an S-Boat in the thirties likely in the engine room.
I know, who cares, but will be nice to have the old tubs when the going was harder.
Nice to see they have their ears on at UBI.
Agree the Narwhal is too limited to detract from the effort that is being put to better use in other areas.
One can always play MoH PA for their ride on one of these cruiser subs and the Makin mission. Like someone would have to hit 5 torpedoes with the MG to save the sub.
Still; fun

Wulfmann

In case anyone wants to read up on S-Boat history-

Includes interior shots on several boats-

http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/s-boats.html


And of course there's "Pigboat 39" the book about S-39 (in case you're wondering where they got the scene of the skipper wearing the Nor'wester at the periscope in "U-570")...

A first hand S-boat account-

http://www.geocities.com/goliverjones/home.htm

(sub school portion starts on page 8).


S-boat histories-

http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/s-list.htm


Yours, Mike

I wonder if they also added in the MkX torp,since those are what the S boats used. Old,slow steam powered torps that exploded slightly more often than the MKIX...:lol:

Hoorah for the Suger Boats.

...if it didn't hurt a little bit, everyone would want to do it...

I care. I think it's awesome. My dad was just young enough to miss the war, but four of my six uncles served, two of them were at Pearl Harbor.

Did your dad leave any stories? I never thought to ask my uncles until it was too late.

Sad to say it but we ignored my Dad's stories for the most part.

He was on the USS Sacramento, a former colonial cruiser re-classed as a gunboat at Pearl Harbor on Dec 7 1941. It was the proudest thing of his life to have been there that morning.
His ship was the second one in from the point across from battleship row so he was as close to the very middle as one could be and yet that was in some ways as safe a place as any in Pearl.
He later served on one of the converted 4 stackers made for commando raids but was transferred to down under and was in Darwin when it was bombed. I remember him saying he admired the precise attacks of the Vals.
He spent much of the war at a floating dry dock and later when McHale's Navy came on many episodes sounded like the antics my old man was pulling in New Caledonia, at least as he told it.
My Uncle served on the USS Missouri and was at the surrender ceremony. It was on the plague tour he met and married my aunt Georgia married over 50 years until he passed.
My father died in 1971 and I certainly wish I had the sense to have recorded his every thought on Pearl. I am sure I am not alone on regretting not documenting the BS we did not care about when kids.


Wulfmann

I saw this post the other day and replied before their (UBI Eve forum) board crashed yesterday. I asked.. and I am still wondering if he was confusing the Salmon/Sargo class with the true S-Boats. I have seen this mistake before.

However, I am really hoping it is true and that S-Boats will be included in SH4.

Art

S Class vs Salmon Class
 

Yes, you are right about that actually.:-? The Salmon class had already been confirmed for SHIV, and maybe the Dev team member answering the question got mixed up (as the SHIII dev team did with the River class DE in the actual release). If that is true, then maybe there will be no 'original' S class after all.:down:

BTW - As I recall, Pacific General was one game which mixed up those two sub classes.

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!:damn: :damn: :damn:

Don't even mention that!

I DISBELIEVE! I DISBELIEVE!

Ugh...I forgot about how confusing the S class designation is. You have the S class and the "new" S class....Now I have to wonder which one they were refering to.

:huh:

Well I don’t understand the decision not to include the Nautilus and the Narwhal.:down:

The Nautilus and Narwhal don’t fit in historically speaking?????
What does that mean? Last time I checked they were both US submarines that participated in the Pacific theater. Damn near everywhere in the Pacific too.
Aleutians, Japanese home islands, Philippines, Indonesia, Midway, and Tarawa (Central Pacific, Gilbert Islands).

They don’t fit with the type of game play that they have prepared. ?

I could have sworn I saw marines in that last developer clip.

The Cruiser subs were the ones that carried out marine special ops missions.

Can’t be that.:p

Must be that they didn’t sink enemy shipping and participate in the PTO.

Top two S boats vs. Nautilus and Narwhal:

Ships sunk (JANAC)

S 38 2 ships 11,073 tons/ 8 war patrols/3 battle stars
S 44 2 ships 8,370 tons/ 5 war patrols/5 battle stars
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TOTAL 4 ships 19,443 tons/13 war patrols/8 battle stars

VS.
Nautilus 5 ships 19,569 tons/14 war patrols/ 14 battle stars
Narwhal 6 ships 13,269 tons/15 war patrols/ 15 battle stars
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TOTAL 11 ships 32,838 tons/29 war patrols/ 29 battle stars

Hmm. Can’t be that.:p

I wonder what they mean by gameplay?

:up:

Way to Go, Neon...dazzle 'em with facts! :D

They probably don't want us power-tripping all over their AI merchies with those two six-inch light cruiser guns. ;)

S-class refers either to a U.S. S-class submarine or British S-class. The Salmon class boats were referred to as "fleet boats" or "Salmon class"...

http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/fleet.html

Yours, Mike

The Salmon/Sargo class were sometimes also called "the new S-class".

No, the developers did not confuse the "S-class" with the "improved S-class"/Salmon class.

Confirmation of Inclusion of S Class Sub
 

Elanaiba, is this some official assurance that the old S-Class will be included after all?:hmm:

Well, it was posted on the official Ubi soft forums, don't go assuming it was a confusion.

The devs would not make that mistake, they are aware that the S-boat is wanted in the game, and they are aware of the differences between s-boats and salmons.