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The Avon Lady 01-16-07 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic42
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by Chaotic42
I'd like to see Colin Powell

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3...ttleposhq9.jpg

That's very... odd...

Do you have a picture that describes what policies of Powell's that you don't like?

Dig into this article to see what an untrustworthy backstabber Powell is.

The article also coveniently points out the pressures from Powell and company at the State Dept. against Bolton's nomination. Do you truly believe that the State Dept's current and past records of decades of bungled diplomacy and non-objective interests is the place to look for the leadership of the US? The thought actually makes me sicker than the little fluffy bunny implied.

And Powell has become a wimp in the fight against America's enemy, Islam. He no longer follows through on any of the tough words he uttered back in the days of the Gulf War. He is barely a shadow of his old past. He is not made of the right stuff for leadership, not even for his current position. I hope that you never have to mark my words.
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Originally Posted by Bort
I'm fairly certain, having undertaken much study into Theodore Roosevelt, that he wouldn't be saying bully to Mr. Bolton.

Oh, really? Why not?
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Probably something much less positive.
Such as?
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Bolton was IMHO a total loser that couldn't even get confirmed by a REPUBLICAN senate for the UN job,
Nothing like a winning Republican senate!
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and then after Bush subverted the legislature with a recess appointment was almost universally despised by his colleagues at the UN.
Which is what was excellent about him. In fact, Bolton is reminiscent of the late Jean Kirkpatrick (RIP). Incidentally, Kirkpatrick said of John Bolton last year, regarding his failed nomination:

"one of the smartest people I've ever encountered in Washington."

You can have your Republican loser senators - the whole lot of them.

Here's the latest article about Bolton (2 pages): Ousted Bolton puts world to rights

Bully! Bully!

And here's an appropriate almost immortal and prophetic quote for you:

"We stand equally against government by a plutocracy and government by a mob. There is something to be said for government by a great aristocracy which has furnished leaders to the nation in peace and war for generations; even a democrat like myself must admit this. But there is absolutely nothing to be said for government by a plutocracy, for government by men very powerful in certain lines and gifted with "the money touch," but with ideals which in their essence are merely those os so many glorified pawnbrokers."
- Theodore Roosevelt, letter to Sir Edward Grey, 1913

One more appropriate quote, representing what Bolton has very much stood for throughout his career:

"Any country whose people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty friendship. If a nation shows that it knows how to act with reasonable efficiency and decency in social and political matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations, it need fear no interference from the United States. Chronic wrongdoing, or an impotence which results in a general loosening of the ties of civilized society, may in America, as elsewhere, ultimately require intervention by some civilized nation, and in the Western Hemisphere the adherence of the United States to the Monroe Doctrine may force the United States, however reluctantly, in flagrant cases of such wrongdoing or impotence, to the exercise of an international police power."
- Theodore Roosevelt, Fourth State of the Union Address, 1904

Bully, bully, Bolton!

Konovalov 01-16-07 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by geetrue
Something to think about:

Where did you cut and paste that from? :hmm:

Something more to think about. This should clear things up: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Care to comment?

Edit: I have removed my quote above of geetrue's text/post as per his request via PM today and in light of his retraction of an earlier post concerning United States Senator Barack Obama.

The Avon Lady 01-16-07 07:52 AM

I love Snopes. :yep:

Tchocky 01-16-07 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue
I read the post at snopes you linked me to and it is almost the same, uh? But all they did is kick it around and say it was false without proof.

But without the OP's comments ... Lets just take the truth ... He is from a black muslim background ... He was born in Hawaii ... but grew up in Indonesian ... His mother divorced one muslim and married another muslim ... So far so good with the truth, right.

Growing up doesnt happen between the ages of 6 and 10, he didnt grow up in Indonesia. So far so good with the exaggeration, then?

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What if Truman, Ike, kenendy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton or Bush had the same background and then said they were born again Christians? Would they then become eligible in the sight of all men to run for President of the United States with any hope of obtaining that office?.
Why should a candidate's religion make a difference? And surely the point of being a "born-again" Christian is that a fundamental change ocurred?

Konovalov 01-16-07 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue
Yes, I care to comment ... I did not cut and paste ... I tried to, but it would not paste right. I think it some kind of software that keeps you from doing this ... I had to manually type the same information I posted from a source I can not divulge, because I do not have his permission.

Right.....:shifty:

And Dr John Reid, the British Home Secretary is a pinko commie who is plotting a Communist takeover of power here in Britain. I know this because I attained the information from a source which regrettably I cannot reveal to the public as I don't have permission. But all you need to know is that in his youth at university he was a member of the British Communist Party. Give me a break. :roll:

Enigma 01-16-07 03:01 PM

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Plus I can't be prejudice ... I love Secretary of State Ms Rice
I know you didnt meant it to be, but thats the funniest thing I've read all day....
:yep:

joea 01-16-07 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
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Plus I can't be prejudice ... I love Secretary of State Ms Rice
I know you didnt meant it to be, but thats the funniest thing I've read all day....
:yep:

Yes indeed. :rotfl:

Konovalov 01-16-07 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joea
Fair enough, but it doesn't mean he is Muslim, why did you think so?

His grandfather is Muslim and his name appears to come from an Arabic word (Link-http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...k_hussein.html).

I don't think he has a chance of winning. I'd like to see Colin Powell, but he's said that he won't run. Just as long as Hillary Clinton doesn't win...

There are even a few right ring blogs who have even been highly critical of the Debbie Schlussel fact challenged ramble:
http://baldilocks.typepad.com/baldil...ing_to_th.html
http://www.thepoliticalpitbull.com/2...sein_obama.php

Enigma 01-16-07 03:47 PM

That first link does a good job of pointing out the blatant ignorance and, frankly, prejudice and bigotry that hes been displayed by the people who want to see this man lose. Good for the writer of that blog. I'm not sold on Obama, nor anybody for that matter, but I respect the man, and I think he deserves that, at least.

SUBMAN1 01-16-07 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by U-533
As I have stated before one may claim he/she is Christian and not be so.

Thank you for pointing this out I will look deeper into it.:)

P.S. Not just because his name sounds like "Osama"

It could be worse - 'Hilary'. Now that is a scary word. I see visions of Hitler when it is said.

-S

Enigma 01-16-07 04:04 PM

Was that a conparison of Hilary Clinton to Hitler, or just a comparison of the sound of their respective names? :hmm:

bookworm_020 01-16-07 05:01 PM

I just read that Obama has officaly thrown his hat into the ring. Will be interesting to see the response, and who else will be putting there hand up!:hmm:

GSpector 01-16-07 05:04 PM

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"It could be worse - 'Hilary'. Now that is a scary word. I see visions of Hitler when it is said."

I'm not sure I'd go that far but She was strongly in favor of the Government keeping track of us and taking care of us. I would prefer a President that is more focused on protecting us then treating us like we're helpless and hopeless.

True, that was Hitlers goal too but I'm not sure I'd still go that far as to compare them to each other. After all, he had Military asperations and a civilian job before office.

Schatten 01-16-07 05:27 PM

It takes a village...


...to make sure we all remember to take our naps and vitamins.


:nope:

geetrue 01-16-07 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Schatten
It takes a village...

...to make sure we all remember to take our naps and vitamins.


:nope:

and don't forget to back up and defrag is good advice too ... but
back to "Who's hat is in the ring?"

This is about who the next president of the United States is, but how
do I separate me and the article? Color doesn’t work …
So anything big is me and small and in quotes is them, okay.

This is kind of new to me … the rules say you can’t post an entire article
So if you want to read a prophecy on the next president of the United States
You have to go here: (That is one long link, uh?)
http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&l...kimclement.com


Excerpt from the prophet Kim Clement on the Larry King show
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So when Larry King got that, you know, it was like a challenge to me. God saying, "I'm going to show you where kidnapped children are. I'm going to show you when the next great storm is. I'm going to show you who the next president is. . . " -- I KNOW who the next one is -- I'll show you things that are going to happen. Kim Clement

Odd that’s about kidnapped children the end of September, 2005
Or you can go here to Kim Clement’s web page and type in anything you want on his search engine:

http://www.kimclement.com/words/words.html

Now who is Kim Clement? He is a prophet out of South Africa that moved to the United States.
Kim prophesied 9/11 five years before the event
(“planes will come low over long island for the purposes of destroying America”)

Kim prophesied the election for 2000
To be the farce it was in Florida (before the count)

And Kim prophesied that America would make a mistake (proven to be in Iraq) but that God would defeat The God of the east anyway …

Signs of the times from a prophet coming true

http://www.kimclement.com/

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Kim Clement was born September 30, 1956 in South Africa, In 1991, Kim moved with his family to the USA..
He was in a nightclub in South Africa and someone walked up to him and stabbed him in the chest. In his confusion, he staggered out into the street and collapsed.
That night, his life drained from a knife wound to his chest. After scores passed by, a stranger picked him up, carried him to his car, and drove him to a hospital. The stranger was a Christian.
He remembered then what an Anglican minister had said to him when he was 9 years old. He said, “Jesus walks the streets still today. One day you will need him, just call on him and he will touch you.”

http://www.kimclement.com/words/1996/detroit_july_1996.htm
http://www.kimclement.com/words/1996/detroit_july_1996_interpretation.htm

baggygreen 01-16-07 09:00 PM

Tell me you dont believe in prophecies...

i prophesise that there will be a reply to my post.:shifty:

for crying out loud, i still lived at home on sept 11, my mother came and woke me up saying "you remember what you said about a big terrorist strike a few weeks ago, it just happened".

Does that mean i can tell the future too?:88)

baggygreen 01-16-07 09:16 PM

Also, that whole "god would defeat the god of the east anyway" thing is complete and utter crock.

Without looking to go on a religious trend im saying this wholly and solely to refute a comment made by this 'prophet'. (please PLEASE if you wanna start harping on about religion do it in one of their threads)

the 'god of the east' which this bloke has taken to be allah, is one and the same as the christian god. He also happens to be the jewish god. They're one and the same, to destroy one is to destroy all. and therefore that comment is, to me, proof of his bull****e-ery.:down:

Ducimus 01-16-07 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
And Powell has become a wimp in the fight against America's enemy, Islam. He no longer follows through on any of the tough words he uttered back in the days of the Gulf War. He is barely a shadow of his old past. He is not made of the right stuff for leadership, not even for his current position.

So says the Israeli necon warhawk :roll:

The Avon Lady 01-17-07 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus
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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
And Powell has become a wimp in the fight against America's enemy, Islam. He no longer follows through on any of the tough words he uttered back in the days of the Gulf War. He is barely a shadow of his old past. He is not made of the right stuff for leadership, not even for his current position.

So says the Israeli necon warhawk :roll:

Gee......... and I thought being a housewife was a full-time job. :hmm:

Slur away!

Schatten 01-17-07 01:59 AM

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So says the Israeli necon warhawk :roll:

You say that like it's a bad thing... :huh:

Personally I think Powell's gone soft myself. Can I be a neocon warhawk too? Please?

:arrgh!:


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