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STEED 12-31-06 08:59 AM

We have one tax here in the U.K which most people here think is theft by the government, it's called Inheritance tax. :nope:

Thanks to the Labour government. :down:

nightdagger 12-31-06 09:51 AM

Umm...I thought everyone had something like that.

VON_CAPO 12-31-06 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggygreen
I find it funny that people have problems with paying income tax. tax which goes on to pay for federally funded roads, health care (i hear thats pretty ****e over in the states), for defence, and a whole lot of important stuff.

If you say this, it is because you did not watch the movie announced in post #1.
And if you did it, or you did not understand it; or you watched it, but not the whole film.

Also, it would be very educative experience for anyone who dares to get involved without to get informed first; to watch the movie "The money Master". :|\\
Everybody can watch it at:

The money masters part 1 ---> http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+masters&hl=en

The Money Masters part 2 ---> http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+masters&hl=en

Terrific description of how american economy works (3h 30m total). :|\\

VON_CAPO 12-31-06 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Go ahead, folks. Don't pay your taxes. But be warned: there's a sucker born every minute.

Go ahead??? Of course not. It would be suicidal.
But to consult a specialist would be wise.

Let's recall that this great nation born from the tax oppression. :yep:

The Avon Lady 12-31-06 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Go ahead, folks. Don't pay your taxes. But be warned: there's a sucker born every minute.

Go ahead??? Of course not. It would be suicidal.
But to consult a specialist would be wise.

Let's recall that this great nation born from the tax oppression. :yep:

You want tax oppression? America is not the place to find it. :nope: Come on over my way for 50% plus 15.5% VAT plus national insurance. Many in Europe go through similar.

As for taxation without representation, America now has the representation. True, there's much to complain about the representation but the taxes are legit.

But again, play Russo's game and get burned.

bradclark1 12-31-06 07:03 PM

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries, then
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his as - s

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers,
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me
to my doom..."

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.


Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax,
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest expense
Inventory tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road usage taxes
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Tele phone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago,
and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class
in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What happened? (I know, we stuck our noses in everyone else's business.)
And now I have to "press 1" for English.

STEED 12-31-06 07:11 PM

Coming soon the very air you breath will be taxed.

PS: Let's all hope this will never come true.

12-31-06 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED
Coming soon the very air you breath will be taxed.

PS: Let's all hope this will never come true.

This is already happening. All those lovely enviromental laws cost business money to comply. That cost is passed onto the consumer. Sort of a VAT for air.

The Avon Lady 01-01-07 12:42 AM

There should be a colored font usage tax. :yep: :yep: :yep:

August 01-01-07 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED
Coming soon the very air you breath will be taxed.

PS: Let's all hope this will never come true.

This is already happening. All those lovely enviromental laws cost business money to comply. That cost is passed onto the consumer. Sort of a VAT for air.

You make that sound like its a bad thing.

GSpector 01-01-07 05:14 AM

Hello,

I see a major problem with not paying your taxes. Complaining about the Taxes is alright and a Right we Americans have but as a Right, this does not allow us to not pay them. We could go back to Boston for another Tea Party :roll: and maybe something could be done but that's all we can do. Stand up and try for a change but before that happens, pay taxes.

Here's the downfall to not paying taxes. Sure you could even declare your property as a soverign nation too but who do you call when there's a fire or a break-in. What if you have a problem with Mail.

All of these agencies are either through the U.S. City Government or the U.S. Government. Stop paying these Taxes and they all will have the Right to refuse you services and there will be NOTHING you can do about it.

Many do not like paying the Taxes but it''s a fact, you do get many services for paying the Taxes and many are still available that you may not need now, or ever but they are there.

Takeda Shingen 01-01-07 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
There should be a colored font usage tax. :yep: :yep: :yep:

And one for silly interjections. :yep: :yep: :yep:

U-533 01-01-07 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradclark1


Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax,
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest expense
Inventory tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road usage taxes
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Tele phone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago,
and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class
in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What happened? (I know, we stuck our noses in everyone else's business.)
And now I have to "press 1" for English.

you forgot 2

Pole Tax ( Im sure if it came to it fair or not this will happen to stop so called "Over Breeding")

Poll Tax (This is up for grabs soon it involves the right to vote and have an opinion)

There has to be some from of these already...possibly hidden in another tax or taxes.

Iceman 01-01-07 03:43 PM

Bradclark...great post....Avon Lady...you crack me up....a tax on colored font usage lmao:rotfl:

baggygreen 01-01-07 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
Quote:

Originally Posted by baggygreen
I find it funny that people have problems with paying income tax. tax which goes on to pay for federally funded roads, health care (i hear thats pretty ****e over in the states), for defence, and a whole lot of important stuff.

If you say this, it is because you did not watch the movie announced in post #1.
And if you did it, or you did not understand it; or you watched it, but not the whole film.

Also, it would be very educative experience for anyone who dares to get involved without to get informed first; to watch the movie "The money Master". :|\\
Everybody can watch it at:

The money masters part 1 ---> http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+masters&hl=en

The Money Masters part 2 ---> http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+masters&hl=en

Terrific description of how american economy works (3h 30m total). :|\\

Im afraid to tell you you're wrong von capo, but mate, you're wrong. I've watched the entire thing. Twice, as a matter of fact. And I do understand it, having studied the origins of such things as US tax code - not to mention having a partner who has spent more than a year studying US tax code in a law degree.

perhaps you might be able to explain to me why you think i've not seen or understood the video in the first post? As i said before, what would you prefer - that people make a voluntary contribution to things like national health care and roads?? I dont see that being particulatly effective, i'm afraid

bradclark1 01-01-07 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
There should be a colored font usage tax. :yep: :yep: :yep:

You're just jealous because you never thought of using such pretty colors in your posts. :D

The Avon Lady 01-02-07 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradclark1
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
There should be a colored font usage tax. :yep: :yep: :yep:

You're just jealous because you never thought of using such pretty colors in your posts. :D

That'll be $10 mind-reading tax.

VON_CAPO 01-02-07 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggygreen
perhaps you might be able to explain to me why you think i've not seen or understood the video in the first post? As i said before, what would you prefer - that people make a voluntary contribution to things like national health care and roads?? I dont see that being particulatly effective, i'm afraid

"The Money Masters" film is about the general economic situation.

"America - From freedom to fascism" film is about taxes and the laws.

The laws have a hierarchial arrangement.
A lower law never can contradict a higher law; but if it is the case, the lower law is null. The highest law is the Constitution.

The film seems to suggest to step into a tax rebellion, because it shows that a compulsory Income Tax is invalid (illegal).

This is about plain laws, and considerations about consequences should be handle by lawmakers (but they look unwilling to make the necessary fixes :nope:).

Furthermore, judges corrupt the law and promote an authoritarian government, when they rule taking in count the impact in the government and not in the law's spirit.

The above sentence can be explained in the following way:
In a democracy there is three Powers:
- Judicial
- Legislative
- Executive
All of them must be independent.
When Judicial and Legislative Powers are acting to please the Executive, the road to fascism is certain.

GSpector 01-02-07 01:28 PM

Hello VON_CAPO,

Ok, it's clear you hate our Taxes, that's fine. So other then bring it to our attention (which is fine), what do you want or expect us Americans to do about it?

What are YOU going to do about it?

Bringing it to our attention is fine but trying to force feed it to us is another story. I accept the good with the bad. I accept paying my taxes for the good I get for it.

I also accept you oppinion. What I don't accept is that you don't accept another members just because they disagree.

I do not like Seafood. I don't care if you eat Lobster everyday for Breakfast. Do not try to force feed it to me. My point is that People have the Right to decide what they like and don't like. Some may even just accept if because the Good out weighs the Bad.

ASWnut101 01-02-07 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradclark1
Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries, then
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his as - s

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers,
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me
to my doom..."

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.


Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax,
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest expense
Inventory tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road usage taxes
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Tele phone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago,
and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class
in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What happened? (I know, we stuck our noses in everyone else's business.)
And now I have to "press 1" for English.


god, how long did it take you to color that? 1 hour? 2?


and we have really been in national debt since the nation was founded way back in 1776....


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