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Frenssen 10-20-06 01:25 PM

The Iranian president is playing a dangerous game which can lead to war. Israel must take Iranian threats seriously and they will do whatever necessary to defend themselves.

10-20-06 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Gary
Quote:

with the jew controlled media we as Americans have been so deceived about who are real enemies really are
Can you elaborate on this?

SUBMAN1 10-20-06 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate
Originally Posted by Gary
Quote:

with the jew controlled media we as Americans have been so deceived about who are real enemies really are
Can you elaborate on this?

He is trying to feed you FUD (Fear Uncertanty Doubt). All propoganda. So no, he can't.

-S

CB.. 10-20-06 02:01 PM

i say we send him a packet of smokey bacon crisps..a copy of the beano...some wrigleys spearmint gum...a small plastic model of superman...a cuddly toy....a wig....a portable food tray...a set of matching hand towels..by diplomatic curiour

it would make as much sense as what he sends us..

10-20-06 02:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Originally Posted by Gary
Quote:
with the jew controlled media we as Americans have been so deceived about who are real enemies really are

Can you elaborate on this?


He is trying to feed you FUD (Fear Uncertanty Doubt). All propoganda. So no, he can't.

-S


Please don't answer for Gary. Let the man speak for himself. His opinion is important.

NefariousKoel 10-20-06 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

All wars of the US since WWII have been against much weaker, local factions only that could not project influence or combat effectiveness beyond their region. and even under these optimal conditions, the war sometimes failed (Korea an unsatisfying draw with hurting long-term consequences, Vietnam a total defeat, Iraq a total defeat, Afghanistan about getting lost, the "Stellvertreterkrieg" of Israel versus Hezbollah being a defeat as well - it was the general test and preparation-effort towards an Iran war).

I can only warn of easily starting a war against Iran. And do not even start again to think about wanting to missionise them again towards western understandings of freedom and democracy...!!! try that, and if you do not loose the war during the field battle, you will loose it afterwards nevertheless.

All the wars you mentioned were not wholly successful, or not successful at all due to one thing. Ignorantly restrictive ROE established by US politicians. The same reason the current setup is not working very well IMO. :nope:

Fighting a war with one hand tied behind your back (and shoved down your pink freakin' panties) is no way to fight a war at all. Go all the way or don't go at all.

Also..
WTF is Gary on about? People never fail to amaze me when they open their mouth.

Gary 10-20-06 03:02 PM

Please let me apologize for causing so much "Fear Uncertanty Doubt"
among you. I had hoped adding a non-jew approved opinion to this call
for murdering the innocent leader of Iran as well as the cowardly
strike with nukes might have been food for thought.
Question: Was that FUD coarse part of some new jew approved sensitivity
training? That is if you are in the military?
I just had to ASK but you don't have to TELL.

I know you have to be awfully careful what you say about the jew in the
military these days, after all you are just temporary sub-contractors as
far as the jews are concerned.:D

10-20-06 03:05 PM

Gary, I was hoping you could elaborate on your view regarding the jewish question.

Skybird 10-20-06 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel
All the wars you mentioned were not wholly successful, or not successful at all due to one thing. Ignorantly restrictive ROE established by US politicians. The same reason the current setup is not working very well IMO. :nope:

Fighting a war with one hand tied behind your back (and shoved down your pink freakin' panties) is no way to fight a war at all. Go all the way or don't go at all.

I agree on the seocnd part, completely, and have used exactly that phrase myself repeatedly. However, western cou7ntries are not run by the military alone, and their wars are not fought by the military alone, but also by politicians. the union of political and military intentions in western wars is a reality. So it does not matter if you are right or wrong with your argument to put the military failure into relation. the wars were lost, by the whole of the nation - and that includes military as weoll as the political level. Without the political level, it would be no democracy, but a miliztary dictatorship.

but it definitely would help if politicians would have a bit more of brain and reason at times, and would focus on decision making about question wether going to war, or not - and once the decision has been made leave it to the military. But that is not the reality of today.

Skybird 10-20-06 03:18 PM

Me thinks Gary is a strange guy.

SUBMAN1 10-20-06 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Me thinks Gary is a strange guy.

I concur.

SUBMAN1 10-20-06 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Originally Posted by Gary
Quote:
with the jew controlled media we as Americans have been so deceived about who are real enemies really are

Can you elaborate on this?


He is trying to feed you FUD (Fear Uncertanty Doubt). All propoganda. So no, he can't.

-S


Please don't answer for Gary. Let the man speak for himself. His opinion is important.

From what I have seen, his opinion doesn't account for much (Matter of fact, its a little whacked), so no thanks.

Takeda Shingen 10-20-06 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary
Please let me apologize for causing so much "Fear Uncertanty Doubt"
among you. I had hoped adding a non-jew approved opinion to this call
for murdering the innocent leader of Iran as well as the cowardly
strike with nukes might have been food for thought.
Question: Was that FUD coarse part of some new jew approved sensitivity
training? That is if you are in the military?
I just had to ASK but you don't have to TELL.

I know you have to be awfully careful what you say about the jew in the
military these days, after all you are just temporary sub-contractors as
far as the jews are concerned.:D

Tell, me, doth the Well of Hatred sound so deeply in this age? It is time for you to come out of the failed political anti-semitism of the 19th century. Do you fear the present? Do you hide under low beds? Do you confine yourself to the conumption of twigs and roots for fear of tampered vittles?

Come to think of this, I ask in vain. You will not be around long enough to answer.

Yahoshua 10-20-06 05:50 PM

....with the jew controlled media we as Americans have been so deceived about who are real enemies really are......

This is why i stopped reading newspapers from mainstream U.S. and started reading some of the Arab papers.

In the U.S. mainstream papers all I hear is that we're being criticized, bombed, threatened, killed, murdered, held down by politics and forced to tie our hands behind our backs while we give away what little land we have left.

In the Arab papers however, we own all the land, control all the banks, we're all rich, and the world is perfect! Where do I subscribe? :roll:

(Gary------> :doh: )

So, seeing as I'm a Jew (or to be more precise, an Israelite since I don't know what tribe I'm from), can you explain to me why I'm poor?

It really does defy all intelligence that a nation the size of New Jersey could somehow inconvienence the whole of the Middle East and most of North Africa simply by existing.

Do you care to explain any of this or would you prefer to bury your head in the ground where it's nice and cuddly for you?

Coda 10-20-06 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Me thinks Gary is a strange guy.

Don't think we need a poll to validate that.


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