Well.... what you waiting for? :up:

Well, doing so will get me a referral, which means no field trips, extracurricular activities, ect.:nope:

Tell me thats not PC bullpoo....

Well you're supposed to do it when noone is watching, silly. :know:

P.S. Don't blame me if you get caught. :shifty:

I think there is. I wont go into a long essay about it. Suffice to say, growing up in the regan era, i was overpatrotic to say the least. I remember a vietnam vet i knew at the time telling me, That there wasnt anything wrong with being patrotic, but being overpatrotic is bad and you dont want to be that way. He served his country and was proud of it. Coming from a type of person i idolzed at the time i coudlnt understand what made him say that. I was taken aback by it. Having grown older, and later enlisting like i knew i always would, and served for 7 years, having been to variou parts in the world, i finally understood what he was talking about.

Can't quite put it into words to explain it, and trying to would be a waste of time; as It woudlnt change anyones perspective on patrotism anyway.

Don't be surprised when he gets caught, it becomes a world headline, after Skybird writes a 20 page dissertation on how forums are failing the world, then he sues you for giving him advice making him get caught.

Then the school systems outlaw students from participating in forums because they get bad advice that gets them caught, Al Gore does a mini-series on how forums are destroying the planet, the UN passes sanctions against Subsim.com barring them from trade with uncivilized nations and North korea decides to nuke Houston because it's where Subsim started.

See what you caused? You should be more careful.

I get what he is saying and understand it, but it would be interesting to hear it from you anyway. i like stories like this.

-S

The problem is not being "patriotic", "overpatriotic" or whatever you want to name it but what you're using nationalism for, or to hide from.

Speak Ducimus, because there's people out there trying to change kid's perspectives.

Anyway, the flag-gluing posts are simply hilarious. :rotfl:

Or maby I should paint it on her forhead while she sleeps in class.....muhahahaha

I woudlnt know where to begin, theres alot one could say.
You let me off easy howeve, so heres the textbook answer of whats wrong with too much patriotism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism

If thats too long to read, you can skip down to the section called "Nationalism within a nation." Oh and, Zeig heil.

Now was that really nessicary?:ping:

Well that's a safe bet Skybird. All empires since the beginning of recorded history, global or regional, have "gone down" at some point. The nation who grew the empire always survives, and that has always been enough for me and the overwhelming majority of my countrymen.

Unlike the most empires throughout history our intention has never been to annex new lands and territories. We're not going to loose our overseas colonies because we don't have any.

So what exactly does "gone down" mean in a modern sense? The last empire to fall, the Soviet empire, "went down" only a few years ago (historically speaking), yet Russia not only survives and is beginning to prosper, but according to that article is already plotting it's return to empire.

Someone with a brain finially! :hmm: That is what I have been saying for ages - what empire? There is none. Never quite understood this empire thing. Yes, the US has near world dominance unlike any country before, but we choose not to exercise that dominance and instead deal in a peaceful economic manner - something a country in a position such as this has never done in history. History will see us as an oddball, that is for sure.

-S

PS. Maybe Skybird can clue us in on what territory we will lose? Oops - I forgot - Porto Rico. Strange this is though, they were the ones that wanted to be a US territory. We never asked them to be to my knowledge. Matter of fact, seems to be a good thing to be a territory since you get all the benefits of being part of the US without paying any of the taxes. So maybe it would be a good thing to loose Porto Rico? ;)

Well you could loose the Virgin Islands, and the Northern Marianas Islands. ;) (and Porto Rico as noted)
And are Guam & American Samoa considered part of US territory?

See, america is taking over the world :lol: :rotfl:

Down with the evil empire :stare: :roll: :88)


said with tongue heavily in cheek

They'd all be a good trade for no longer having to listen to the ceasless criticism we've been enduring since the end of the second world war.

She has the right to be anti-american, damnit. Just because she was born in america this does not mean she has any dutys there. At least not from a lefties viewpoint.

Patriotism will lead to Ultra Patriotism, and that will lead to Nationalism, wich will lead to Hitler, Mussolini, Czar, Amadinejad....

That is why i think patriotism is a dangerous disease.

*Gets mad writing this*

I just can't see people like you without going totally mad.

You take to propoganda real easy I notice.

Some day USA will go down, and Russia or Middle East will controle the world. It's not nice this way, but for me, USA in power is the same sucky.

And i'll bet the way "David, Hippie Music and Fidel save the world" (Would be a nice movie title...:hmm:) won't work...:damn::damn::damn:

"Peaceful trade in a nice, economic manner"? Ha Ha. Ha. Now stop taking your governements pills please.