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The Avon Lady 10-04-06 09:25 AM

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Crazy. I am against offending muslims with intent (you see what happends if you piss the Radicals off)

Even if it's the truth? Even if it's called for?

Yes.

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Do you comprehend where your attitude is heading?

Yes. It's heading thorwards Duck and Cover, thorwards saving my a**. No need to cause trouble if i can just shout up and continue in peace.

Suggested reading: While Europe Slept.

Good luck, Europe! :nope:

STEED 10-04-06 09:50 AM

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Hey us Brits have to pay £130 a year for this crap else we are taken to court!

Well I stopped last year and had three red letters and a bloke representing the BBC around knocking on my door and asking do I live here, which I answered sorry can not help you don't know the person your asking for. By the way never let them in without a warrant to inspect your home without a policeman with them.

So I'm waiting for my next letter or another visit, out of interest there is a guy in the U.K. who is doing battle with the BBC though the courts he believes the licence fee is a criminal act as it has not got the permission of the government.

The Avon Lady 10-04-06 12:06 PM

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Crazy. I am against offending muslims with intent (you see what happends if you piss the Radicals off)

Even if it's the truth? Even if it's called for?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
Do you comprehend where your attitude is heading?

Yes. It's heading thorwards Duck and Cover, thorwards saving my a**. No need to cause trouble if i can just shout up and continue in peace.

Suggested reading: While Europe Slept.

Good luck, Europe! :nope:

It's not just Europe. A taste of things to come.

While we're at it, another popular Churchill quote is appropriate:

"An appeaser is one who feeds the crocidile hoping it will eat him last."

STEED 10-04-06 12:26 PM

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Good luck, Europe! :nope:It's not just Europe. A taste of things to come.

Sounds like your tube is going down the tubes.

Sorry all for such a cheap joke. :lol:

TteFAboB 10-04-06 12:33 PM

Are these people on Britain's side?

They could dress a presenter as a Nun as far as I care and if she talked about how wonderful North Korea is and why Britain should slowly and progressively copy the North Korean model it wouldn't be any different if they had the presenter dressed as Satan.

Fish 10-04-06 12:40 PM

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From my reading of the Daily Mail article it appears that the BBC were internally debating wheather any of it's newsreaders should have the right to wear religious symbols be it a crucifix a headscarf or any other religious or politcal symbol. I can't see any indication in the article that this is as a result of the BBC bowing down to Muslim anger or pressure. As the article highlights:

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The BBC was debating whether a female Muslim newsreader should be allowed to wear a headscarf while reading the news when the issue over Ms Bruce's cross was brought up.
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A source who attended the meeting said: "It was argued that BBC staff on screen should not wear anything which hints or directly points to a political or religious leaning and that the cross contravened this and should not be allowed."

Stephen Whittle, a former controller of editorial policy at the BBC said that the fact that Fiona Bruce had worn a cross while reading the news was a mistake.
"A newsreader should not let themselves get in the way of a story by wearing things that make the audience wonder about the newsreader's own position on a story," said Whittle.

It is understood, however, that Ms Bruce has not been asked to remove the necklace, and that the BBC does not have any official guidelines on the wearing of religious symbols.

Again, I can't see anything in the article to suggest that there has been a Muslim uproar or a raft of complaints into the BBC from British Muslims. And for the record I don't agree with the BBC if it did change it's policy to one where by it's newsreaders could not appear wearing an item of jewellery or clothing such as a crucifix or headscarfe. I would have hoped that BBC management had better and more important things to deal with at the Beeb.

Agree, newsreader's should not show a political or religieus preference.

joea 10-04-06 01:01 PM

This forum is becoming more and more authoritarian. :down:

NEON DEON 10-04-06 01:10 PM

Save the editorializing for Andy Rooney
 
I can’t fault the BBC for wanting to present themselves as being objective.

The news has to be objective.

Since it must report in an objective manner it must also present in an objective manner.

Wearing of religious symbols on TV while reporting on a story of religious significance, does not project objectivity. Therefore presenters of the news must keep an appearance that displays neutrality at all times.

A reporter covering a war does not present as objective if he is doing so with a peace symbol on his helmet no more than he would present as objective reporting it with a skull and cross bones on his helmet.

If you don’t report objectively, it is not news it is an editorial.

Skybird 10-04-06 01:55 PM

News speakers should present the news dressed in wide grey sacking that hides any body contours, with a shaved skull and and a mask so that no heterosexual man or woman and no lesbo and no gay can take offense from sexual discrimination. Alternatively, a burkha for both dhimmi females and dhimmi males would be an ideal alternative. Instead of necklace and neckties, news reporters could wear a decorative yellow spot on their sacking. They should also take off any rings, so that unmarried people cannot feel excluded. I agree, the news needs to be reported objectively. BBC reporters should also avoid anything that could identify Britain as part of the Christian Western European cultural sphere. -There is a rumour that the Bavarian and Austrian greeting phrase "Grüß Gott!" will be banned soon for reasons of religious discrimination. The alternative phrase being considered is "Friede sei mit dir." It is very pc by word content, for it emphasizes the importance of peace and generosity and avoids any unwanted link to the aggression of the crusaders.

August 10-04-06 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
I can’t fault the BBC for wanting to present themselves as being objective.

The news has to be objective.

Since it must report in an objective manner it must also present in an objective manner.

Wearing of religious symbols on TV while reporting on a story of religious significance, does not project objectivity. Therefore presenters of the news must keep an appearance that displays neutrality at all times.

A reporter covering a war does not present as objective if he is doing so with a peace symbol on his helmet no more than he would present as objective reporting it with a skull and cross bones on his helmet.

If you don’t report objectively, it is not news it is an editorial.

The problem is banning the symbol does not eliminate the potential bias, it just camoflages it. I'd rather see newspeople and other public officials wear their religious, business and social accoutrements so i know where they are coming from.

Personally if it were up to me every politician would wear be required by law to wear their sponsors logos on their clothing and vehicles. I don't care if it made them look like nascar drivers, at least we know who they are beholding too.

CB.. 10-04-06 03:12 PM

can we sue the BBC for inciting religious hatred ..because they're really beginning to p*ss me off....

Fish 10-04-06 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
News speakers should present the news dressed in wide grey sacking that hides any body contours, with a shaved skull and and a mask so that no heterosexual man or woman and no lesbo and no gay can take offense from sexual discrimination. Alternatively, a burkha for both dhimmi females and dhimmi males would be an ideal alternative. Instead of necklace and neckties, news reporters could wear a decorative yellow spot on their sacking. They should also take off any rings, so that unmarried people cannot feel excluded. I agree, the news needs to be reported objectively. BBC reporters should also avoid anything that could identify Britain as part of the Christian Western European cultural sphere. -There is a rumour that the Bavarian and Austrian greeting phrase "Grüß Gott!" will be banned soon for reasons of religious discrimination. The alternative phrase being considered is "Friede sei mit dir." It is very pc by word content, for it emphasizes the importance of peace and generosity and avoids any unwanted link to the aggression of the crusaders.

Had a heavy meal? :cool:

snowsub 10-04-06 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by August

The problem is banning the symbol does not eliminate the potential bias, it just camoflages it. I'd rather see newspeople and other public officials wear their religious, business and social accoutrements so i know where they are coming from.

Personally if it were up to me every politician would wear be required by law to wear their sponsors logos on their clothing and vehicles. I don't care if it made them look like nascar drivers, at least we know who they are beholding too.

The news reader is just calling out the autoque, it's the editors bias that no-one sees that is the problem

If you want just make the presenters go like nakednews :rotfl:

NEON DEON 10-04-06 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
I can’t fault the BBC for wanting to present themselves as being objective.

The news has to be objective.

Since it must report in an objective manner it must also present in an objective manner.

Wearing of religious symbols on TV while reporting on a story of religious significance, does not project objectivity. Therefore presenters of the news must keep an appearance that displays neutrality at all times.

A reporter covering a war does not present as objective if he is doing so with a peace symbol on his helmet no more than he would present as objective reporting it with a skull and cross bones on his helmet.

If you don’t report objectively, it is not news it is an editorial.

The problem is banning the symbol does not eliminate the potential bias, it just camoflages it. I'd rather see newspeople and other public officials wear their religious, business and social accoutrements so i know where they are coming from.

Personally if it were up to me every politician would wear be required by law to wear their sponsors logos on their clothing and vehicles. I don't care if it made them look like nascar drivers, at least we know who they are beholding too.

The BBC wants to present as credible to viewers when reporting the news.

They can not do that while wearing religious symbols. That should be obvious because of the action the BBC took. We are talking about the news here. Not TV talk shows, sit coms, dramas, or variety shows.

JUST THE NEWS.

Lets look at lighter news like sports. If the sportscaster on TV is wearing a Jets uniform and says the jets are a shoe in to win the Super Bowl, the only way I am going to believe him is if I am a jets fan. He has lost his credibility.

STEED 10-05-06 04:17 AM

As far as I can make from the radio reports the TV presenter had every right to wear her cross as there are no BBC rules saying newsreaders are banned. This is a clear cut case of PC loonies in the BBC raking it up and causing problems, I don't see any other TV station news in my country saying the same thing. This is a disgraceful act by the BBC and they should be a shamed of themselves for acting in this manner.


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