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Sea Demon 09-07-06 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
Gimme a break. The fact is we could be there ten years from now irregardless of which party is in power and the only difference between today and then will be the calender date.

Nope. Democrats have proven they have no will to fight terrorists. Their entire strategy now is to surrender and disgracefully leave before we have any stability in Iraq. That takes time, and the Democrat Party has shown they don't have the fortitude to do it.

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No WMD and the terror showed up after we liberated Iraq.
Right. There was no 9/11. There was no Khobar Towers incident. There was no WTC attack in 1993. The USS Cole was never attacked. The Marine barracks were never attacked in Lebanon, etc., etc., etc. If you're talking about Iraq itself, it depends on how you describe terror. You might want to ask the Kurds about that one. And maybe the Israeli's about how their terrorist enemies were being payed by Saddam.

And only George Bush said anything regarding Saddams weapons programs before the Iraq invasion. :roll: Right.

BTW, have you bothered to read the Iraq War resolution? It doesn't look like you have. That might give you a clue why we went there. Internet liberal blogs leave alot to be desired.

August 09-07-06 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by *[FOX]* Bort
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You really think so? The Democrats haven't successfully fought a war since WW2. What makes you believe they would have done any better now?
I would think that the fact that during both World Wars we were led by Democrats would be something that a Republican wouldn't want to bring up, nevertheless you have and therefore I must give you guys big props on Grenada, Panama, and the Gulf War- phew those were rough ones! Your record ain't that great with the other wars you've led, Nixon made the decision to leave Vietnam and so far you aren't doing so well with the current wars either, but boy, Grenada, bang up job there!:D

First off Bort, I'm not a Republican. FWIW my voting record since the Carter administration is pretty much evenly split between them and the Democrats, along with any half decent Independant i see on the ballot.

Second as for the World Wars, imo we shouldn't have gotten involved in the first one and shouldn't have had to step into the last one, though FDR did a pretty fine job of leading us through it, displaying a backbone not seen in any Democrat chief exec since with the possible exception of JFK.

However you're right, Grenada, Panama and Desert Storm, all relatively bloodless wins, especially compared with the massive Democrat screwups in Vietnam and Korea. Nor has their post 'Nam war record been any brighter with bungling from Iran to Somalia to Yugoslavia with little one could call success

Taken as a whole the modern Democrats are wishy-washy and quite willing to leave messes for their successors to deal with, and i'm including the WTC attacks in that.
So yeah given that war record i'd say i'm pretty glad the GoP was in the majority in this one. I don't agree with with everything they've done, but on the whole I believe they've done a pretty good job so far.

August 09-07-06 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
You would certainly be surprised if you looked at me and my skin color. ;)

Watch out man. You know how the Democrats won't tolerate anyone of color that doesn't tow their party line.

The Noob 09-07-06 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
This makes me sick to my stomach. :nope:

What a rip off! :nope:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZl12jrdhU0



United States of America = One corrupt nation under God!

HOLY MUCK!:huh:

Now you got your Proof that Bush is a Lair. Who lies once, can do it again. And Again!

A little thing i made up, if moderators find it too much Offensive Remove it.

I just think it fits good to this event.

To the Tune of "Der Fuehrers Face".

Americas National anthem, inofficial Version

When Bush says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Bush's face
Not to love Georgie is a great disgrace
So we HEIL! HEIL! Right in Bush's face



When Condi says, "We own der world und space"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Frau Condolizas face
When Herr Rumsfeld says they'll never bomb this place
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Herr Rumsfeld's face


Are we not the supermen
American pure supermen
Ja we ist der supermen
Super-duper supermen
Ist this Turbo Capitalist land not good?
Would you leave it if you could?
Ja this Turbo Capitalist land is good!
We would not leave it if we could!


We bring the world to order
Heil Bush's world New Order
Everyone of foreign race will love Der Bush's face
When we bring to der world disorder

When Bush Says We Never will be Slaves! We HEIL! HEIL!
And Still we work like Slaves! When Bush Brags and Lies and Rants and Raves we HEIL! HEIL! and Work into our Graves!


When Herr Bush jells I gonna have more Shells! We HEIL! HEIL! For Him we make more Shells! If one little shell would Blow him right to hell we HEIL! HEIL! And wouldn't that be Swelled?

Are we not Republicans?
Patriot Republicans?
Ja, we ist Republicans!
Neo-con Republicans!
Ist Kalifornia not gut?
Would you leave it if you could?
Ja, Kalifornia is good!
We would not leave it if we could.

When Bush says, "We ist der master race"
We HEIL! HEIL! Right in Bush's face
Not to love Georgie is a great disgrace
So we HEIL! HEIL! Right in Bush face

:rotfl::rotfl:

bradclark1 09-07-06 08:59 PM

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Nope. Democrats have proven they have no will to fight terrorists. Their entire strategy now is to surrender and disgracefully leave before we have any stability in Iraq. That takes time, and the Democrat Party has shown they don't have the fortitude to do it.
Not one terrorist attack under the democrats was the magnitude of 9/11. Should we hang that on republicans? Then on top of that the given enemy was Afganistan. Now look what is happening, the Taliban is on a comeback and we can't do squat about it? Why? Because the republicans attacked Iraq on top of it before the work was finished in Afganistan and now we are tied down in Iraq. Yeah the republicans are doing a bang up job fighting terror. How many Iraqi's die a day since we liberated them?
So you want a standing U.S. army in Iraq? How long do you think it will fly? Another two or five or ten years? How many years is it worth? Think our all volunteer force is going to stay volunteer? How much can we afford? Our debt is going through the roof. How long can we financialy handle it. How long will voters stand for it?

Can the democrats do any better? I seriously doubt it. Nothing we do can stabilize the region. Our hands would have been more then full enough with Afganistan by itself.

Do I have an idea of what would work? No, I really don't and that's sad. There are no right choices.

Yahoshua 09-07-06 09:13 PM

Pearl harbor happened under a Republicans' watch?

Onkel Neal 09-07-06 09:17 PM

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The Bush family remained strangely confident. Now why did George W. grin and ignore the exit polls?
That's where I stopped taking that crap seriously. People, when an election is that close, it's going to be hard if not impossible to say with certainty who had the most votes. It's almost like flipping a coin.

I go with Bush because if Gore could not carry his own HOME state, he's a loser.

Sea Demon 09-07-06 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1
Not one terrorist attack under the democrats was the magnitude of 9/11. Should we hang that on republicans?

You can if you want. But there has been only one major terrorist attack on U.S. interests since Bush has been President. Unlike the multiple attacks under Clinton where the response was Zero. So you would have to give Republicans credit for at least addressing the issue rather than sitting on your hands and pretending there is no terrorist threat at all like the Democrat Party response. All the while allowing these murderers more time to flourish. There may not have been a 9/11 had Clinton approached the problem like Bush is doing now. And it doesn't help that the Clinton administration put handcuffs on domestic intelligence agencies from sharing information.

In addition, the Democrat Party actively tries to shutdown the very policies needed to catch these fanatics. The Republicans at least don't believe we're supposed to just sit , be passive, surrender our lives, and die.


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Do I have an idea of what would work? No, I really don't and that's sad. There are no right choices.
Yes, it's difficult isn't it? But I find it interesting that those who critisize the Bush administration have no answers themselves. They do nothing but critisize and offer no alternatives short of full surrender. No Thanks.

Sea Demon 09-07-06 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
You would certainly be surprised if you looked at me and my skin color. ;)

Watch out man. You know how the Democrats won't tolerate anyone of color that doesn't tow their party line.

I know what you mean. I'm a liberal's worst nightmare. I'm a brown skin person who loves the USA, it's culture, and it's heritage. I believe in a strong military, border security, and national security as a priority. I've been called a "self-hater" by many that get infuriated that I don't blame 'whitey' for every economic challenge I confront in my life. I prefer to solve my own problems and blame no one.

I've totally frustrated liberals because I have brown skin, yet I'm NOT dependant on the government for my own sustinence. I've been hated by liberals because I have brown skin, yet I believe in economic freedom, low taxes, and pro-growth economic policies. It's true, there is nothing more dangerous politically to liberals than a conservative brown skin person. I've seen more hatred directed towards me by foul-mouthed liberals once they find out I have color in my skin and ancestry. I've actually experienced this. But I just laugh. :lol: I've actually been a little successful in convincing a few other "brown skin" people that they'll be better off not being a part of the Democrat Party Victim Group Program.

SubSerpent 09-07-06 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
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The Bush family remained strangely confident. Now why did George W. grin and ignore the exit polls?
That's where I stopped taking that crap seriously. People, when an election is that close, it's going to be hard if not impossible to say with certainty who had the most votes. It's almost like flipping a coin.

I go with Bush because if Gore could not carry his own HOME state, he's a loser.

Not surprising that a Texan wouldn't stand with another Texan. :roll:

Maybe Bush grinned and ignored the exit polls because he new the election was fixed in Florida before the election even started. He was "guranteed" a win in Florida by his own brother after all!

Then that guy who declined for anymore interview and walked away from the reporter was caught by the reporter on paper as having used illegal money to pay off the third party company to count the ballads and chads in Bush's favor.

Why was their so many black people in Florida denied to cast a vote? 95,000 black people is quite a few and almost all of them voted for Gore. There votes didn't get counted because they were listed as being felons. That one black man Flordia got mixed up with a crime a white man did in another state. They fixed his name in the data base as not being allowed to vote because he had commited a crime in "2007" WTF?!?! Does the Bush administration have some sort of "Minority Report" mind reading crap going on? Do they know this guy is going to commit a crime on a specific day, at a specific time, in a specific year. He was robbed and cheated and the whole damn election was unfair.

Also, why was the woman (who just happened to be Bush's chairperson for his campaign) allowed to be the vote recount "official". That was unfair. Obviously she was a Republican so why wouldn't she have had something to do with cheating the Democrats out of their win for the benefit of herself and her future?

I'm sorry Neal, but that video does show that the Bush campaign and administration is nothing but a bunch of corrupt, lying, cheating, and stealing criminals.

SubSerpent 09-07-06 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by Sea Demon
You would certainly be surprised if you looked at me and my skin color. ;)

Watch out man. You know how the Democrats won't tolerate anyone of color that doesn't tow their party line.

I know what you mean. I'm a liberal's worst nightmare. I'm a brown skin person who loves the USA, it's culture, and it's heritage. I believe in a strong military, border security, and national security as a priority. I've been called a "self-hater" by many that get infuriated that I don't blame 'whitey' for every economic challenge I confront in my life. I prefer to solve my own problems and blame no one.

I've totally frustrated liberals because I have brown skin, yet I'm NOT dependant on the government for my own sustinence. I've been hated by liberals because I have brown skin, yet I believe in economic freedom, low taxes, and pro-growth economic policies. It's true, there is nothing more dangerous politically to liberals than a conservative brown skin person. I've seen more hatred directed towards me by foul-mouthed liberals once they find out I have color in my skin and ancestry. I've actually experienced this. But I just laugh. :lol: I've actually been a little successful in convincing a few other "brown skin" people that they'll be better off not being a part of the Democrat Party Victim Group Program.

Funny how you say "brown" skin. Looks like you are trying to closer yourself to "Whitey". You must be the real Carlton! Last time I checked most African American's I know, proudly call themselves "Black" people.

nikimcbee 09-07-06 10:45 PM

I have a song for all you democrats, I dedicate this to you:
http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=28560

pick you version...:rock: :rock: :rock: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Sea Demon 09-07-06 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
Funny how you say "brown" skin. Looks like you are trying to closer yourself to "Whitey". You must be the real Carlton! Last time I checked most African American's I know, proudly call themselves "Black" people.

LOL. :lol: No. Actually I'm brown skinned because my maternal Grandmother came from Mexico. My maternal Grandfather came from Guatemala. I'm not "Black" or African-American. And I can actually dance, unlike Carlton. :D

As far as getting closer to "whitey', I use the term for obvious reasons. It's used to make a point. I have many frind of varying racial make-ups including white folks. I choose friends based on character. But I note that there is a concerted effort on the left to get white's to feel guilty about things they didn't personally do. Sins of the Father thing here....

SubSerpent 09-07-06 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee
I have a song for all you democrats, I dedicate this to you:
http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=28560

pick you version...:rock: :rock: :rock: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

That's just retarded that you would think that a Democrat would be closer to communism than a republican. Last time I checked, republicans were closer extremist to communism than Democrats by far. republicans want to control EVERYTHING! They tend to be made up of drunken red necks, the KKK, wife beaters, and major control freaks.

Way on the left side you have a Dictatorship. Way on the right you have communism. Neither one are good so that's why people tend to stick closer to the middle.

Remember, Democrat is left sided and republican is right sided which is closer to communism. Check your history and facts over!

Two MAJOR republicans...

Rush Limbaugh = Communist
Nute Gingrich = Communist

Sea Demon 09-07-06 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent
That's just retarded that you would think that a Democrat would be closer to communism than a republican. Last time I checked, republicans were closer extremist to communism than Democrats by far. republicans want to control EVERYTHING! They tend to be made up of drunken red necks, the KKK, wife beaters, and major control freaks.

Way on the left side you have a Dictatorship. Way on the right you have communism.
Remember, Democrat is left sided and republican is right sided which is closer to communism. Check your history and facts over!

Uh. You got this wrong. When comparing the economic principles of the two party's, Democrats are actually aligned closer to Communist principles. Communism is the collective ownership of property and organization of labor for common advantages. Sound familiar? Nikimcbee got it right.


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