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Takeda Shingen 08-16-06 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by enaceo
The battery fix makes it so that the XXI's battery has correct range .Don't worry it is included in GW mod as BBW said.So feel free to use the XXI if you want !
No, the battery mod fixes the near-infinite 99% recharge bug. Without it, you will charge your battery for nearly 24 hours before reaching 100%.

EDIT: I see what you are talking about. I am using version 1 of the mod. You are talking about version 3. I adjusted my files to give the realistic submerged range long ago, before there was a v. 3.

VonHelsching 08-16-06 12:57 PM
Just to clear any potential confusion about the battery fixes.

Me and Ducimus made the XXI Battery Fix for the stock game. It eliminates the eternal recharging to 99% stock bug for the XXI (and some other minor fixes). I also made the IXD/2 range fix (which includes some other minor fixes) for the stock game and the Real Battery Life Fix for all u-boat types for the stock game and GW, which corrected (reduced to historically correct levels) the underwater ranges.

All the above modlets / fixes are included in the Grey Wolves modpack, so there is no need of installing them over that.

horrgakx 08-16-06 03:11 PM
Excellent, transferred to 2nd, got a nice big heavy boat :)

andy_311 08-16-06 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim
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Don't try locking horns with the Royal Navy in a type IX, especially late in the war - or it's a watery grave for you. They're best for hitting ports far away where both air cover and surface escorts are scant.

If you're going to operate near along the GIUK or in the Med, stick to the VIIs
I disagree with that I run an IXD2 when it comes available and I think it's a great boat to take on the RN it might have a dive time of 42 seconds but it sure holds a lots of torps more than a VIIC and if you can't get a sub to pd in 42 sec when a convoy is 25-30 km away then there's something wrong.
You'll still end up suffering from the lack of manouverability. It's a good boat if you don't mind having to be a bit more patient, and hitting convoys with a lower level of protection. But operating near the UK, you're just asking for it.

I'd prefer my ability to escape after putting a couple of merchants to the bottom. The lack of submerged range is also a pisser when you're trying to aggresively follow a convoy submerged whilst reloading. When I break contact with an escort I always try to break contact towards the merchants. But you need the speed, manouverability and endurance to do it.
I don't operate near the uk in late war Jan 45-end of war I tend to go for convoy's from Freetown or NY to Freetown or Gibralter or go for the baltic convoys depending what grid am assigned to.
But like I said IXD2 super boat if you know it's limitations she will get you beyond May 45.

Fat Bhoy Tim 08-17-06 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by andy_311
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Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim
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Originally Posted by andy_311
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Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim
Don't try locking horns with the Royal Navy in a type IX, especially late in the war - or it's a watery grave for you. They're best for hitting ports far away where both air cover and surface escorts are scant.

If you're going to operate near along the GIUK or in the Med, stick to the VIIs
I disagree with that I run an IXD2 when it comes available and I think it's a great boat to take on the RN it might have a dive time of 42 seconds but it sure holds a lots of torps more than a VIIC and if you can't get a sub to pd in 42 sec when a convoy is 25-30 km away then there's something wrong.
You'll still end up suffering from the lack of manouverability. It's a good boat if you don't mind having to be a bit more patient, and hitting convoys with a lower level of protection. But operating near the UK, you're just asking for it.

I'd prefer my ability to escape after putting a couple of merchants to the bottom. The lack of submerged range is also a pisser when you're trying to aggresively follow a convoy submerged whilst reloading. When I break contact with an escort I always try to break contact towards the merchants. But you need the speed, manouverability and endurance to do it.
I don't operate near the uk in late war Jan 45-end of war I tend to go for convoy's from Freetown or NY to Freetown or Gibralter or go for the baltic convoys depending what grid am assigned to.
But like I said IXD2 super boat if you know it's limitations she will get you beyond May 45.
So then you're just contradicting yourself, because you said

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I think it's a great boat to take on the RN
You are in effect just agreeing with me, that it's strength lies in its ability to hit areas further away that are generally poorly defended.

macstu23 08-17-06 01:32 AM
Is the VII-C really that much better than a VII-B ? According to the stats the only obvious advantage is the 3 seconds faster dive time. The C variant is a little bit slower under the surface as well.

I'm on my 12th patrol and I'm still in the same boat I started with (VII-B, using the GW mod.) Is it really worth spending 3000 renown on the VII-C, or should I save those renown points a Type IX ? Right now I'm going for the latter, since I like my little B variant. So far in my current career I've managed to sink 3 Illustrious class Carriers with it. Those poor British are never going to win the war now :lol:.

U-104 08-17-06 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim
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Originally Posted by andy_311
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Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim
Don't try locking horns with the Royal Navy in a type IX, especially late in the war - or it's a watery grave for you. They're best for hitting ports far away where both air cover and surface escorts are scant.

If you're going to operate near along the GIUK or in the Med, stick to the VIIs
I disagree with that I run an IXD2 when it comes available and I think it's a great boat to take on the RN it might have a dive time of 42 seconds but it sure holds a lots of torps more than a VIIC and if you can't get a sub to pd in 42 sec when a convoy is 25-30 km away then there's something wrong.
You'll still end up suffering from the lack of manouverability. It's a good boat if you don't mind having to be a bit more patient, and hitting convoys with a lower level of protection. But operating near the UK, you're just asking for it.

I'd prefer my ability to escape after putting a couple of merchants to the bottom. The lack of submerged range is also a pisser when you're trying to aggresively follow a convoy submerged whilst reloading. When I break contact with an escort I always try to break contact towards the merchants. But you need the speed, manouverability and endurance to do it.
Well, I admit it's not designed to go in the English Channel, but I've used them in the Irish Sea with no problem.


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