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Fish 07-25-06 04:20 AM

During my live I learned to use all kinds of weapons even Russian.
I never ever needed one to my defence nor do I know people whow did.
(I meant people I realy know, not from storys in the newspaper)
You are alowed to have handgun or rifle (not authomatic) after you have a permit in my country.

jumpy 07-25-06 05:06 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5211998.stm

see how cowwed by the media we are here? :rotfl:perhaps we can licence waterpistols and spud guns too... lmao

Yahoshua 07-25-06 08:15 AM

uh-oh, pointy sticks are next....

StdDev 07-25-06 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Yahoshua
uh-oh, pointy sticks are next....

Doesnt the Constitution guarantee my right to possess big rocks!? and maybe a few of the medium sized pointy ones too?

XabbaRus 07-25-06 09:56 AM

First we need to ban the tabloid press in this country to avoid the hysteria, and then we need to ban new labourites to avoid the knee-jerk reaction.

SUBMAN1 07-25-06 11:15 AM

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Anyway, thats a tough deal. That is like looking your citizens in the eye and telling them that they are children and not able to handle grown up things! Sorry, but I'd move! :down:

-S

I guess it's down to what you're used to, most people in the UK don't (and never have) own a firearm, so it's no big deal to us. A country with a more deeply ingrained gun culture may see that as restrictive, where we may view their culture as extremely liberal - which is right/wrong is a whole different discussion :O)

Our conservative roots won't let go of the firearms. If it were up to the liberals (far left - since mod left usually will tolerate them), we'd has just as restrictive policies as yours. I never bothered to own one up until a couple years back, but I always defended my rights to own one if I ever wanted to. I didn't plan to own one when I bought one either, just that the logic was, I can buy this at a good price and pick up a couple hundred $$$ extra upon selling it. The guy was moving to AZ and wanted to dump half his stuff to lighten the load. Took him up on the offer and instead of making my couple hundred $$$, I just kept it, and as soon as you have one, they multiply! :) (exponentially!)

I can see how if you grow up without something, then you won't miss it though.

Godalmighty83 07-25-06 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Sorry, but I'd move! :down:

-S

well its your choice mate, personaly i wish that all guns in any form were banned for civilian use.

SUBMAN1 07-25-06 01:37 PM

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Sorry, but I'd move! :down:

-S

well its your choice mate, personaly i wish that all guns in any form were banned for civilian use.

Good thing your opinion could be classified as wrong and that you have no control over your government since any sane person can see that the criminals guns aren't going anywhere.

If you care to analyze what happens when more and more people start to carry guns on a daily basis and carry handguns concealed no less, in 1992 most states started issuing concealed permits. In 1995, a good sizeable percentage of the population had concealed permits by this time, with more and more every year that goes by. Why don't you analyze what happened to our crime rate during these years and continuing on to today. When you are done with that, then go analyze what happened to the crime rates in cities and states that did not issue permits. I think you are in for a bit of a shock.

-S

SUBMAN1 07-25-06 01:48 PM

Samuel Francis says it best:

"The society of late twentieth century America is perhaps the first in human history where most grown men do not routinely bear arms on their persons and boys are not regularly raised from childhood to learn skill in the use of some kind of weapon, either for community or personal defense - club or spear, broadsword or long bow, rifle or Bowie knife. It also happens to be one of the rudest and crudest societies in history, having jubilantly swept most of the etiquette of speech, table, dress, hospitality, fairness, deference to authority and the relations of male and female and child and elder under the fraying and filthy carpet of politically convenient illusions. With little fear of physical reprisal Americans can be as loud, gross, disrespectful, pushy, and negligent as they please. If more people carried rapiers at their belts, or revolvers on their hips, It is a fair bet you would be able to go to a movie and enjoy he dialogue from the screen without having to endure the small talk, family gossip and assorted bodily noises that many theater audiences these days regularly emit. Today, discourtesy is commonplace precisely because there is no price to pay for it."

Samuel Francis

tycho102 07-25-06 02:36 PM

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Nope you can have a bolt action rifle normaly a .22 or .308 you can have a shotgun, i own an AK47S (deactivated of course) i also own many other rifles.

Weird that a rifle is allowed since it could be considered an offensive weapon, but a hadgun which is purely a defensive short ranged weapon is not. I guess this is to appease the deer hunters.

-S

About every 3 years, there's a push to outlaw rifles. It's kind of interesting because there's been so many armed crimes that, just within the past 4 years, there have been several drives (by cops, no less) to start carrying sidearms. I guess they were routinely facing AK-47's on the street, and at the height of the "crisis", losing an officer a month.

Policing by consent. Only in a British context (i.e. Redcoats, massed formations, take your bullet like a man, etc) could I even begin to fathom that concept.


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