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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes.

And how can something suddenly be claimed as commercial, when it has been come with software from Microsoft since many years? I used it since Windows98 and word97. Does someone stray along, take something that is very old (I think the font has been designed in the early 30s, I once red) and that is not his own, nevertheless claim that now IT IS his own,installs a tool on my system and delete it from my HD...???

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You think maybe a newer version of Word removed it?

Or a windows update that you do once a month.

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Originally Posted by Wim Libaers

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes.

And how can something suddenly be claimed as commercial, when it has been come with software from Microsoft since many years?

While it might come as a bit of a surprise to those who have only seen CD-R versions of Microsoft software, they are, in fact, available as commercial products. ;)

More specifically, a lot of the fonts in offices are licensed from commercial font designers. Also, old fonts are not always available for immediate use in computer programs, so some companies make digital versions based on the old designs (which can be complicated and time-consuming if it also has to be readable at low resolutions), and then sell them.

Legal protection is a different matter. The exact nature of the laws applying to typefaces, and what exactly is covered, varies. Searching for them and downloading without paying may or may not be legal, and you might need a specialist to determine this. Doesn't matter, as you already have them, just need some way to get them from the CD, right? If that installer stores its stuff in CAB files, this might help:
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article01-010

I tried to locate where the fonts may be, one win98 cd, five Work Suite 97 CD, and nowhere nothing named "font", plus plenty of CAB files with titles that mean nothing to me. thanks nevertheless.

I give it up now. Seems to be hopeless.

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Imagoine a bureau, and they do all office work with a given font, for years. then suddenly the font is deleted and some company claims payment for it, years later - if you do not want to buy it six years later, you need to reformat all documents from those six years. This cannot be meant serious, eh?

For many documents, exact layout is not critical. If it is, a company is likely to specify a standard style, and they probably keep backups of the style files and fonts necessary. The compatibility issues between different versions of Word are probably a bigger problem than this.

Oh, and I think such things are always done when possible. A typical example with far worse consequences are "submarine patents", such as the GIF file incident.

When I need to write a big text, I usually use LaTeX with the standard set of fonts. Free system, free fonts, and nice output. A bit harder than Word to get started, but in my opinion it's much better than Word for long texts.

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Originally Posted by Wim Libaers

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Well, i have made a security backup of my font folder now, too. Problem is that probably not too many people think about that as long as they never have suffered from lost fonts. Most pÃ¶eople here backup their doucments and files and save games. But fonts that are considered to be default installation by Windows or Work suit or Office or Word...??? I think not too many do that.

Well, many companies have backup systems now because they started using computers before most home users. They're more careful now (well, not all of them) because they already experienced the effects of such oversights. In some cases, the problem is not only losing some style information like fonts, but simply not being able to get at the content because the software and/or hardware needed to read the files was gone.