The RSAF's next gen fighter is going to be the Eurofighter Typhoon. Although its possable that they would buy F/A-35s since they operate both F-15C/D/S and Panavia Tornado IDS/ADVs concurently.

Sounds like Israels JSF woes aren't dissimilar to the UK's problems. UK wants the same rights. In fact that has gone quiet...

But of course.

Maybe they'll get these, too.

Is Israels F-16 on alert?
 

Interesting link, Avon Lady...

Can the F-15 Strike Eagle deploy this? Thats the only thing short of a C-130 (maybe a F-4 lighty loaded could take off with it) that eather Airforce has that comes close to being able to lift this thing. The MOP is designed to be droped from the B-52 and B-2 something that the IAF and RSAF lacks.

I know I'll get some flak for this, and I have to say that I don't want the nutters in Iran to have nuclear weapons,

BUT
I guess you all know what MAD means (in case you don't: Mutually Assured Destruction), and atm Isreal having nukes but no one else in the middle east, is giving them a carte blanche doing whatever they like in the region, I guess if Iran had nuclear weapons we'd see more stability down there, because I don't think anyone will be stupid enough to press the button.

And quite frankly I could understand the Iran if they're considering developing nuclear weapons. I'd too feel cornered if the US would first free Afghanistan, invade Iraq and then threaten me.

As someone in this thread put it, the ability to produce nuclear weapons doesn't mean having the capacity to do so.

Where exactly does my country get to do whatever it likes and that based on using a nuclear threat? This is giberish.
Thinking isn't equivalent to knowing and this is 4 year old material.
Why did the US invade Afghanistan?

Why did the US invade Iraq?

Who has been threatening whom for decades as "the great Satan"?
Which doesn't mean they don't have the capacity.

The bottom line is that a war can be waged to fight against Ahmadinejad without nukes or with them.

Ahmedinejad doesn't want nuclear weapons because Israel has them.

He wants a nuke to be able to destroy freedom.

In his letter to Bush he said Democracy failed to fulfill mankind's goals and yadda yadda and he has the better model.

Unless one wants to live under the superior Iranian regime, a fantastic model that it is, or already lives in a mental asylum, Iran must never be allowed a Nuke, untill it recognizes the right of the Other to exist, or in other words untill VipertheSniper is allowed to play Tennis with a crucifix on his neck, wearing shorts, in Teheran.

To get Osama bin Laden, to fight a war on terror

No one knows really. I'd say, oil in the first place tho, even Saddam said to his staff that they won't have any WMD's to use.
To fight the war on terror.

The religious leaders in Iran, the US or rather the western lifestyle.

Why would you want to fight him, because he's making hollow threats?

Why do you think they hate us so much?
Why do you think that terrorists are getting that much support?

Because they see us living in wealth, while they themselves have next to nothing. The suicide bombers are lured in with religion, and it's easy to lure them in, because they're desperate. Desperate because noone seems to hear them, or recognise their wishes. I know it's hard to recognise someones wishes through all the bombings, but I guess fighting a war on poverty would dry out the support for terrorists like Osama much quicker than trying to get all the terrorists.

It's like treating only the symptoms of a disease rather than the disease itself.

Well, you conveniently leave out a few details. Like Osama masterminding 9/11 and more and the Taliban protecting him and offering him any facilities he needs to train more terrorists.

This was not just a bounty hunt for one head.
If for oil, why isn't the US awash in it?:nope:

It was indeed for WMDs. Have any been found? Nope.:nope: So how do you explain the decision?

We've been through this here but read through this article, quoting verbatim high ranking democrats and their opinions of Saddam and his WMDs. These quote go from pre-9/11 to post-war declaration against Iraq.

Assessing all the quotes, going to war was not far-fetched at all. So where's the mistake (besides the strategic military ones on how to handle this war and what should have been expected)?

Intelligence. Or more accurately, the lack of such. 9/11 was an intelligence failure. The assemssement of Hussein and his abilities was just the same. The CIA has since seen 2 of its headmen asked to leave.
So, then, this would be Islam's intollerence of the infidel world. BTW, it is not limited to the west.
Why is this hollow?

Movie suggestion: go to BlockBuster and rent Charlie Chaplin's "The Little Dictator". The world laughed back then, too.
Jealously! Naughty us! Success is evil! Modernization and advancement are the forces of Satan!
Can anyone dig up the total number of dollars that have flowed into OPEC country coffers over the last 50 years?
I see someone's been mesmerized by George Clooney's "Syrianna".

Please look up the backgrounds, educational and financial status of the 9/11 and London terrorists, for example. OBL has millions, if not billions. The PA received billions, nowhere to be found.
Read and wise up.
All the jizyah in the world will not cure the disease that is Islam.

If you don't know what jizyah is, praise Allah for Google.

Islam a disease? Don't you think your painting here with a brush a tiny bit too wide?That's hatespeech, much like the hatespeech against Israel spouted by the likes of Ahmadinejad.I would have expected something more reasonable from you.I'll have a go on your other points later, atm I'm not at home.Watch this space

Skybird, wherever you are, can you please give me a link to one of your essays that responds to VTS' shock?

Stay tuned......................

Yes I am shocked, shocked by your attitude towards muslims... they should be tolerant and respect our way of life, but you just go and say that their religion is a disease. The majority of muslims isn't condoning the acts committed by those terrorists.Just a reminder... I'm praying to the same Lord as the Muslims, just like you do, he may have another name, but they're all the same, whether you're jewish, muslim or christian. So I guess we all have a disease?There have been committed many atrocities in the name of religion, so yeah I guess religion in general is some sort of disease, or was the religion just used to justify someones actions, when this someone just wanted to gain influence and might?I personnally don't think that there's one TRUE religion in this world, and the others are all wrong, or some are less right than others. Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Specifically Islam. There a potentially big difference.
These 2 are not the same.
The ongoing mistake here is interchanging people who are Muslim and the religion called Islam and this is not semantics, I can assure you.

BTW, what is the percentage of Muslims that condemn all those terrorist acts you can imagine? What is the percentage that support them? Again, these 2 are not the same.
This is mostly incorrect. Just for starters, you are aware that Islam does not view Jesus as a diety but rather as a human being selected by a monotheistic God to be a prophet? The Quran denies the crucifixion and resurection of Jesus.

As for Judaism, the G-d I pray to never sent anyone named Mohamed or Jesus for that matter to be prophets. In Judaism's view, they are false prophets and the scriptures associated with both religions are works of fiction.

But you mean well. I like the spirit. However, you will find that Islam will only begrudgingly acknowledge such a spirit and then only under conditions where you and I have been clearly subjugated as dhimmis. Of course, you do know what Dhimmitude is, don't you. Hint: Google - again.
I await Skybird.

So what would be the other branches of Muslims?? Apart from Islam?To those fundamentalists and fanatics it clearly does matter which religion is RIGHT, BUT does it matter for US?I'm not sure I got what you wanted to say with that sentence? That 95% isn't the same as 5%?... (I've not looked up how many Islams condemn the acts of the terrorists, these are just random numbers)I guess you're right, I should've written "or even" instead of "and"Care to elaborate?And could please someone tell me how I get this forum to accept my text formatation?It all ever comes out as plain text.