That's most likely because the internet is selective for people who make more money that average people, and, in general, what you do "in regular life" and what you do in the military are roughly equivalent... so when your average PFC or airman gets out, he doesn't go on the internet and start debating sonar sensitivities and torpedo wire break parameters.

And, yes, I've met plenty of grunts online at my CM gaming club, http://webandofbrothers.de/index.htm .

To clarify, our continuous search routine is not what is considered so sensitive. Not a lot has change with that, because really, how many different ways are there to spin around in a circle?

What is very sensitive (because it plays to our detectability) is interrupted search...when we do it, why we do it, and how. That has not only changed, it is continually changing, and that is what was alluded to with a question referring to look interval. I cannot answer those questions, though I can direct you to apply common sense and use range rate/relative speed to figure it out (just how fast can a 20kt contact force me deep?)

I don't mean to get snotty, but it seems a bit silly to call me out because I claim a bit of information is classified when we're talking about submarine warfare. It seems as though it would be obvious that a lot of tactical guidance can't be posted in here, and this subject in particular has no bearing on gameplay anyway.

I have never claimed to be anything other than what I am: an active-duty FT (weapons/tactics guy) who works at one of the US submarine schools. If you don't like that, I have suggestions for where you can place your feelings about me.

And my point, without being snotty, is that anyone can be anything they want on the internet.

With regards,

Bill Clinton

Henson, don't worry, your information, knowledge, and experience is MUCH appreciated here. :up:

I personally thank you for your insights, as you have helped us with our mod work a considerable degree.

Cheers,
David

Swimsalot a little respect is in order. Don't disrespect someone because you refuse to believe whatever.

I served in artillery. I can answer some questions about artillery. If someone asks me something sensitive, I'm not going to tell them. Don't believe me? Well, fine, I don't care.. but be polite about it!

I think I'm going to do this from now on

OOOGA OOGA OOGA ALL HAIL KING NEPTUNE! MAY HE MAKE OUR TORPEDOES RUN TRUE!

and then we sacrifice Luftwolf....

Because my dad is computer illiterate. Otherwise you might be talking to an honest to god Aviation Store Keeper and lowly E-3. He can fold a mean shirt or pants, and he will be amazing you with his stories on how he was on an Aircraft Carrier... once... for about a week... close to shore or how he got out of the Navy early. He proudly served in the Navy out in the middle of the desert…

That's odd, I was voted in my high school yearbook as Most Likely to Be Sacraficed to the Gods of Naval Counter-Detection...

Well. Before I graduated college, I was a plain old USAF Senior Airman. :rock: :88) Aircrew Life Support specialist.

What else isn't modelled accurately in DW?Submarines first please.

The list is pretty long or rather short, depending on your point of view. As we all know by now, masts are not modelled - for humans. There are other points, but I guess the bubbleheads can elaborate better on them. As for the P-3, for example the Harpoon (only the SLAM-ER version) is not modelled.

But if you wanna get a feeling for life in a sub (which is definitly not modelled in DW) ... try this :

HOW TO SIMULATE LIFE IN THE NAVY

1. Buy a dumpster, paint it gray and live in it for 6 months straight.

2. Run all of the piping and wires inside your house on the outside of the walls.

3. Pump 10 inches of nasty, crappy water into your basement, then pump it out, clean up, and paint the basement "deck gray."

4. Every couple of weeks, dress up in your best clothes and go the scummiest part of town, find the most run down, trashy bar you can, pay $10 per beer until you're hammered, then walk home in the freezing cold.

5. Perform a weekly disassembly and inspection of your lawnmower.

6. On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays turn your water temperature up to 200 degrees, then on Tuesday and Thursday turn it down to 10 degrees. On Saturdays, and Sundays declare to your entire family that they used too much water during the week, so all showering is secured.

7. Raise your bed to within 6 inches of the ceiling.

8. Have your next door neighbor come over each day at 5am, and blow a whistle so loud that Helen Keller could hear it and shout "Reveille, Reveille, all hands heave out and trice up".

9. Have your mother-in-law write down everything she's going to do the following day, then have her make you stand in the back yard at 6am and read it to you.

10. Eat the raunchiest Mexican food you can find for three days straight, then lock yourself out of the bathroom for 12 hours, and hang a sign on the door that reads "Secured-contact OA division at X-3053."

11. Submit a request form to your father-in-law, asking if it's ok for you to leave your house before 3pm.

12. Invite 200 of your not-so-closest friends to come over, then board up all the windows and doors to your house for 6 months. After the 6 months is up, take down the boards, wave at your friends and family through the front window of your home...you can't leave until the next day you have duty.

13. Shower with above-mentioned friends.

14. Make your family qualify to operate all the appliances in your home (i.e. Dishwasher operator, blender technician, etc.).

15. Walk around your car for 4 hours checking the tire pressure every 15 minutes.

16. Sit in your car and let it run for 4 hours before going anywhere. This is to ensure your engine is properly "lighted off."

17. Empty all the garbage bins in your house, and sweep your driveway 3 times a day, whether they need it or not. (Now sweepers, start your brooms, clean sweep down fore and aft, empty all ****cans over the fantail)

18. Repaint your entire house once a month.

19. Cook all of your food blindfolded, groping for any spice and seasoning you can get your hands on.

20.Use eighteen scoops of budget coffee grounds per pot, and allow each pot to sit 5 hours before drinking.

21. Have your neighbor collect all your mail for a month, read your magazines, and randomly lose every 5th item.

22. Spend $20,000 on a satellite system for your TV, but only watch CNN and the Weather Channel.

23. Avoid watching TV with the exception of movies which are played in the middle of the night. Have the family vote on which movie to watch and then show a different one.

24. Have your 5-year-old cousin give you a haircut with goat shears.

25. Sew back pockets to the front of your pants.

26. Spend 2 weeks in the red-light districts of Europe, and call it "world travel."

27. Attempt to spend 5 years working at McDonalds, and NOT get promoted.

28. Ensure that any promotions you do get are from stepping on the dead bodies of your co-workers.

29. Needle gun the aluminum siding on your house after your neighbors have gone to bed.

30. When your children are in bed, run into their room with a megaphone,and shout at the top of your lungs that your home is under attack, and order them to man their battle stations. ("General quarters, general quarters, all hands man your battle stations")

31. Make your family menu a week ahead of time and do so without checking the pantry and refrigerator.

32. Post a menu on the refrigerator door informing your family that you are having steak for dinner. Then make them wait in line for at least an hour, when they finally get to the kitchen, tell them that you are out of steak, but you have dried ham or hot dogs. Repeat daily until they don't pay attention to the menu any more so they just ask for hot dogs.

33.When baking a cake, prop up one side of the pan while it is in the oven. Spread icing on real thick to level it off.

34. In the middle of January, place a podium at the end of your driveway. Have you family stand watches at the podium, rotating at 4-hour intervals.

35. Lock yourself and your family in your house for 6 weeks. Then tell them that at the end of the 6th week you're going to take them to Disneyland for "weekend liberty." When the end of the 6th week rolls around, inform them that Disneyland has been canceled due to the fact that they need to get ready for Engineering-certification, and that it will be another week before they can leave the house.

36. In your grim, gray dumpster (refer to #1), with 200 of your not-so-closest friend (cite para. 12) regardless of gender, suffer through PMS!

37. Sleep on the shelf in your closet. Replace the closet door with a curtain. Have you wife whip open the curtain about 3 hours after you go to sleep. She should then shine a flashlight in your eyes and mumble "Sorry, wrong rack."

38. Renovate your bathroom. Build a wall across the middle of your bathtub, move the shower head to chest level. When you take showers, make sure you shut off the water while you soap down.

39. When there is a thunderstorm in your area, find a wobbly rocking chair and rock as hard as you can until you become nauseous. have a supply of stale crackers in your shirt pocket.

40. Put lube oil in your humidifier and set it on high.

41. For ex-engineering types: leave the lawn mower running in your living room eight hours a day.

42. Have the paperboy give you a haircut.

43.Once a week, blow compressed air up your chimney, making sure the wind carries the soot onto your neighbors house. Ignore his complaints.

44. Every other month buy green or red marine primer and put it in a paint sprayer. Spray it over the roof of your house onto your neighbors car. Ignore his complaints.

45. Lock wire the lug nuts on your car.

46. Buy a trash compactor, but use it only once a week. Store the garbage on the other side of your bathtub.

47. Get up every night around midnight and have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on stale bread.

48. Set your alarm clock to go off at random during the night, jump up and get dressed as fast as you can making sure you button up the top button on your shirt, stuff you pants into your socks. Run out into the backyard and uncoil the garden hose.

49. Once a month, take every major appliance apart and put them back together again.

50. Install a fluorescent lamp under the coffee table and then get under it and read books.

51. Raise the thresholds and lower the top sills of your front and back doors so that you either trip or bang your head every time you pass through one of them.

52. Every so often, throw the cat in the pool and shout "Man overboard, starboard side" Then run into the house and sweep all the pots and dishes off the counter. Yell at the wife and kids for not having the kitchen "stowed for sea."

53. Put on the headphones from your stereo set, but don't plug them in. Hang a paper cup around your neck with string. Go stand in front of yours tove. Say ... to no one in particular "Stove manned and ready" Stand there for three or four hours. And say again to no one in particular "stove secured." Roll up your headphones and paper cup and place them in a box.

P.S. : This is quite old, but I still love it :rock:

My field of expertise has nothing to do with the navy, though I've been on the internet long enough to know when someone is probably telling the truth or they're making things up just for the attention. And Henson in now way seems like someone vying for attention. Come on Swimsalot, use your brain!....look...he hasn't even got a sig for God's sake.

Henson...your knowledge is much appreciated by us simple folk. Simply in awe my friend. Carry on and ignore us envious mortals. :up:

Hey Oneshot...don't forget running out of fresh milk and placing a 'skulls and bones' emblem on the dispenser with the label of 'White Death'. :rotfl:

LOL Oneshot...that was excellent. I read it all.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Better make them optional then. Some of us still have crap graphics cards on laptops - if you make the picture too pretty our frame rate would drop to nothing assuming it doesn't crash first...

OS: Nice one. :rotfl: