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Deathblow 05-12-06 10:39 PM

Maybe it already exist, who knows.

If you really want to simulate this you can give one of the sub TA a positive buoyancy and keep the other the same. One can be your above the layer TA and the other can be your normal TA

LuftWolf 05-14-06 02:15 AM

That really needs to go into some kind of SubSim photo-book. :up: :rotfl:

I think we understand what you mean... but it just isn't done as far as we know, and people get paid a lot of money to think of things like this and engineer them.

SubSerpent 05-14-06 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuftWolf
That really needs to go into some kind of SubSim photo-book. :up: :rotfl:

I think we understand what you mean... but it just isn't done as far as we know, and people get paid a lot of money to think of things like this and engineer them.


Are you offering me a job?

LuftWolf 05-15-06 01:27 AM

I was about to ask you the same question. :rotfl: :-j :P

Cheers,
David

PS That's what you say to someone when you don't want to bum them a cigarette, but you want them to feel obligated to bum you one the next time you ask them. ;)

PPS Smoking is bad for you. :down: :nope:

Deamon 05-18-06 09:26 PM

I remember a discussion long time ago, on the sub command forum, i think. Where someone told that the towed arrays on US subs actualy have an adjustable buoyancy feature and that it's possible to determone the angle of the incomming signal, what in turns helps to determine the depth of the emitter.

But this discussion is long long back.

Deamon

Mcfester 05-19-06 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubSerpent
Here's the concept for anyone who is confused about what I am saying.
It is designed to go just above the thermal layer so that the sub below the layer can hear what is above it without having to rise above the layer and become an easier target for surface ships or other subs that may be lurking above that layer.

LOL, wouldn't the sub already be an easy target for any other subs lurking above the layer? Thats why subs stay above and arrays sink, so they can hear the sub below but the sub below can't hear them.

Deamon 05-19-06 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mcfester
Thats why subs stay above and arrays sink, so they can hear the sub below but the sub below can't hear them.

Heared about it several times but still don't understand the mechanic of it.

Deamon

Bort 05-24-06 03:29 PM

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-navvds.htm
This link tells about the Canadians VDS that they use on one of their Iroqouis class destroyers. From what they say it sounds like this set is active only, kind of like a giant dipping sonar set.
http://www.sfu.ca/casr/navvds-2.jpg

Neptunus Rex 05-26-06 09:47 AM

Skimmers don't have to come to periscope depth to receive/send comms or for ELINT missions. The array is slightly negative so the array can go below the layer while at slow speeds while you (the platform) are above the layer. It also allow streaming the array while at PD.

The floating wire antenna will float at the surface, but the drawback of it, particularly near land, is that seagulls will actually sit on the wire. Too bad that isn't modeled in DW or SC.


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