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DeepSix 04-17-06 06:55 PM

Re: Next US President: Wishes and Expectactions
 
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
All right, Bush is going into his last 2 years.

1. Who do you think you would support for President (US citizens only)?

2. Who do you think has the best chances (everyone)?

3. And who did you vote for last election (US and Canadian citizens only)?
...

1. McCain or Powell. And for some reason I have this hunch that Lindsay Graham might be a running mate (maybe with McCain?).

2. McCain, Powell, and (unfortunately), Hillary.

3. Bush.

Iceman 04-17-06 07:48 PM

It WILL be John McCain and whoever runs with him...watch and see.There is no other person who will even come close...mayor of NY is a nice thought but where is his experience in the bigger political arena?....I'll take any bets 5 to 1.

CCIP 04-17-06 07:53 PM

Yea, my bets are with McCain.

Oddly enough, as far as personalities go, I like him the best. :hmm:

Sea Demon 04-17-06 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman
It WILL be John McCain and whoever runs with him.......I'll take any bets 5 to 1.

The Conservative base will never elect McCain. When it comes to most issues, he's all over the map. He killed his own Presidential ambitions with his support for open borders/illegal immigration. If the GOP nominates McCain, we'll see a Democrat President (God Help US!!) The exception to that is if the Dems are idiotic enough to nominate the shrill, and always detestable Hillary Clinton.

tycho102 04-17-06 08:04 PM

Re: Next US President: Wishes and Expectactions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
1. Who do you think you would support for President (US citizens only)?

2. Who do you think has the best chances (everyone)?

3. And who did you vote for last election (US and Canadian citizens only)?

1. I want anything other than a Democrat or a Republican. I would support Jesse Ventura if he was running (<< not a joke). I'd support Neal Boortz if he was running (the "Fair Tax" lawyer). In fact, I'd support Neal before Gary Coleman or the "porn for guns" lady.

2. If Hillary runs, Condi will run against her. Other than that, I'm not even remotely sure.

3. Bush. My state is totally awesome: there were only two parties represented on the ballot, and by God, you'll like it or we'll *make* you like it. And I find it HIGHLY OFFENSIVE that you did not include our undocumented workers in your questionare. They have just as much right to vote as we do, and probably twice the Canadians. Convicted felons should be allowed to vote, too.

Onkel Neal 04-17-06 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen
This is a lot of speculation. No one has formally committed yet. All responses are assuming that everyone on the 'nominees list' is intending to run.

1. My vote for US President--Senator Joseph Biden (D, DE)

2. Most Likely List of Candidates--

D: Joe Biden, Russ Feingold, Hillary Clinton
R: Rudi Guliani, George Allen, John McCain
IND: Ralph Nader (again)
GREEN: Cynthia McKinney
LIB: Michael Badnarik, Lance Brown

3. I voted for Michael Badnarik (LIB, TX) in 2004

What about Lieberman? Of all the Democrats, I think he's the one I would be able to accept. What do you think, Tak?

Onkel Neal 04-17-06 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan
I do but enough people back it he wont have a choice but to stand down, failing that some jerk might do a kennedy to him.

Dont say it cant happen its happend many times before can happen again, im not whineing just stating my opinion thats what america is supposed to stand for isnt it "free speech" well stop trying to put me down and then read into other people youll learn a hell of a lot.

Kapitan, aren't you getting a little off-topic here? :-? I wanna talk about who the next US President could be, not bash Bush. Feel free to start a topic on your warm thoughts of W :hmm:

Torpedo Fodder 04-17-06 09:17 PM

I wonder how much chance Mark Warner has of getting the Democratic ticket. Given that he was a highly popular Democratic governor in a state that normally votes Republican (Virginia), He'd probably be the Democrats' best bet a making inroads in the "red" states. Of course, knowing the Democrats, they'll probably nominate some stupid Kerry-esque party hack who wouldn't stand a chance against an opponent without Dubya's baggage. :roll:

bradclark1 04-17-06 09:28 PM

Re: Next US President: Wishes and Expectactions
 
1. Support for President = Hillary (Would have been McCain but he flubbed it on the border issue).

2. Best chances = I have no idea.

3. Last election = Kerry. It was anybody but Bush.

I'm totally disenchanted with all sides.

scandium 04-17-06 09:34 PM

Curious as to why so many seem to fear and loathe the possibility of Hillary as the Democratic nominee... I vaguely recall her promoting a national healthcare plan while First Lady but I'm not really that familiar with her voting record as NY Senator. Why is she so scorned by so many?

TLAM Strike 04-17-06 09:52 PM

Well as a New Yorker I would say that Sen. Clinton has done an adequate job. She has done some stupid stuff (the Gandhi and plantation speeches) but she has done some good stuff (support of the military bases that faced closing).


Due to recent medical problems I’ve been having I’m starting to think having her as President supporting national healthcare might not be such a bad idea. :hmm:

JSLTIGER 04-17-06 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scandium
Curious as to why so many seem to fear and loathe the possibility of Hillary as the Democratic nominee... I vaguely recall her promoting a national healthcare plan while First Lady but I'm not really that familiar with her voting record as NY Senator. Why is she so scorned by so many?

She comes across in a bad way because of how she ran for office (to me, anyway). Personally, I see her as potentially the most power hungry politician out there.

She bought a house in NY only a few weeks before the deadline for NY residency for Senate passed. She then decared her candidacy for the NY Senate seat. This declaration was also perfectly timed to coincide with the end of Bill's second term in office, when she would lose her national stage as First Lady. She easily won the Senate race as the democratic candidate (NY is a predominantly Democratic state), and took office 1/3/01, while her husband was still POTUS (until 12PM on 1/20/01). To me, this just seems to be her way of remaining in the national spotlight. There was talk of her running in 2004, but she didn't have enough experience in government to run, so she stayed out of the race. In 2008, she'll be in her second Senate term, so no one can level that charge at her, and she can still claim that she has not been in Washington long enough to have been a significant part of the logjam that is the US government. To me, this all seems engineered to gain as much power as possible in as short a period as possible.

Granted, none of what she has done is illegal, but I just feel that this behavior is that of someone specifically seeking to maintain and increase her power. Please note that although most of what I have listed is fact, my opinion on the subject certainly is not absent from my assessments, and I make no attempt to deny this.

Torpedo Fodder 04-17-06 10:26 PM

The Dems better not nominate Hilary if they want to win, for the simple reason that she's far to polarizing. In my experience most Americans either love her or despise her: there is no middle ground. The Democrats will have little chance of making any real gains in the South or Midwest with her as their candidate, and they will need to do that in order to win.

Deathblow 04-17-06 10:47 PM

Colin Powell all the way!! :yep: :up:

He's the only one of the bush administration that has consistently shown good judgement, imho. :yep:

Deathblow 04-17-06 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
Due to recent medical problems I’ve been having I’m starting to think having her as President supporting national healthcare might not be such a bad idea. :hmm:

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

National healthcare programs suck!!! :down: :nope:... ok that's a strong statement, but a totally national program has a lotta pitfalls IMHO, and will probably be as much of a detriment to good healthcare as no national program. Its pretty much a "grass is greener on the other side" phenomena where sure it looks tempting but is it really better? Nope


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