Hardly ever loaded my Akula out with them to be honest. One thing for sure is that everyone knows where you are when you let one loose. :o

Well america is worried about one little roket torpedo and to put it bluntly its not that effective even if it is super cavitating!

I would have thought that america would realy have jumped on the band wagon when it heard Russia is assisting china to develope not only SSN submarines but also SSBN.

Konovolov that is very true it makes such a racket that its impracticle to ask a sub to stay stealthy with thease weapons, what platform are they going to fire them from?

Kilo's tubes cant handle them.

Remember that Iran has recently displayed some home-baked sub that they produced.

We're talking about Iran? Suicide subs comes to mind. :yep:

Wow how wasteful is that?!? A advanced underwater rocket to do a job a weapon left over from WWII could do for a fraction of the price.

yea suicide subs, so why in gods name put multi million dollar torpedos in them if they are going to blow themselves up?

Kinda stupid huh pay all that money for squat.

Also as xabbarus said thier new subs looks nothing more like a sang o mini submarine i doubt it could even load two of these torpedos on it let alone have the capibility to fire them.

I was just thinking that myself...but would they want to trade one very expensive submarine (that'll take them a fair while to build again, especially under fire) for one US ship...and to be fair, although there IS a chance they could somehow (if they're real clever) sneak inside a CVBG and nail the carrier...one Hout isn't going to do the job, and even if it did then within a couple of weeks there'll be ANOTHER carrier in the Gulf and several dozen very angry US air squadrons blowing the crap out of anything that moves in Iran from an altitude that Iran can't reach.
Unless the Iranians have a very well defended port then that'll be the first thing to go, the Kilos and their homebaked sub won't be able to dock, if they try a replenishment at sea then they're going to get picked up by a ASW patrol and sunk. Although the US Navy isn't invincible (not by any stretch of the imagination) it's a lot more powerful than four Kilos, a homebaked sub and some super-cavitating torpedoes.

That one is true to tlam but thier kilo's cant realy fire them torpedos unless thats why the recently been upgraded by russia for.

Thier new subs id strongly doubt could even load them onto the subs.

And i think it would be a good weapon to use against say a FFG or DDG fire and forget but likely hood of getting close enough in a PT boat is small especialy with the type 45 if and when it comes into service and also the burkes.

The Daily Show clip is online! http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/t...nt/index.jhtml
Click on Persia 2.0 The part about the Hout is 3/4's of the way through the vid. :up:

"Iran is not Iraq."
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Great link :up:

It's either an empty useless bluff, or they have something so smart under their sleeve we can't even think of what it is.

Can they even get their Kilo's operational?

I think so not long since they were upgraded. so no reason why they shouldnt be.

Id suspect that iran couldnt produce or purchase enough Houts and platforms to fire them to be considered a real threat. It'll take a whole nest full of of them to sink a carrier anyway. When it comes to a war of attrition, the Iranians dont stand chance(thought the American pubilc wouldnt be too supportive of such a war). We could throw enough steel at the Iranians to absorb the entire stock of the best they have and still keep on coming.


In the case of an Iranian war, we would likly do something similar to the 1st Iraq war considering all we need to do is destroy Iran's ability to produce fissionable material. So the Air Strikes, cruise missiles, etc will be the way to go. Carrier groups would be supportive instead of main battle units, we could likly keep them farther out at sea and use air borne re-fueling to get to and from targets. im sure stationary radar and SAM facilities are already mapped and programmed into cruise missiles as we speak, mobile sights will be hunted by UAVs and land or sea based strike aircrafts, research facilities are alreadt tagged and ready for JDAM and Bunker-Busters after Iranian air space is cleared of aircraft and SAM sights. No need to land troops and occupy any large portion of land, just drop Spec Ops, smash and grab and leave a smoldering crater where necessary.

We dont need Iran we just need them unable to produce fissionable material, we can assess iran as a threat afterward and use iraq and afganistan/pakistan as land based launch pads if neccessary in the future.

But that would leave the tankers very vunreble, seeing how the iranians have fighters Mig 25 and 31's not to mention some F14's place the tankers to close with in range of them and well bye bye gas station.

As for the rocket torpedo Kilo and that new one id doubt heavily if it could be used on them.

Surface ship be destroyed before it even got near.