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That would be Karl Marx, I think.

IF Islam brings down the weat, I think it would be through immigration. Immigration in it self is not the problem. The problem, as I see it, is that muslims are, as a cause of their religion, hard-working people and by working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, for minimal wages, they will out-compete us lazy westerns.

There are, as I can see it, three ways to solve this problem.
1. The capitalist way. Work as hard as them.
2. The nationalistic way. Throw them out.
3. The socialistic way. Force them to work less.

I vote for option three.

typical norwegian way :).

Problems:

3. Everyone will be lazy...
2. You cant throw out people once you've accepted them...
1. Everyone will be productive...

Option 1 by far...

ah... a rather dramatic generalization, don't you think? you wen't from a classic class strugle within a country to a clash of civilizations. I think you are reaching.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

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@Letum

Not bad, but Aristoteles already said that long ago ... check his theory of the cyclical repetition of political regimes, from Kingdom to Tyranny, to olygarchy, to democracy, to tyranny and back to Kingdom :)

Each instance originally given points to repression by ones own government - as seen currently in places in both the middle and far east (think North Korea, China..). In China we see the revolt already occuring slowly, in Taiwan.

The difference between history and the current middle east is that those in power are using a socially accepted belief system - islam - to deflect the ire of the citizenry. Historically - a regime is safe in war as the nation or community has a "common foe", this has also been used historically by regime's in trouble. Ultimately, the regimes fail to deliver the promises they made "if only the people would support" the regime, resulting in the eventual overthrow of the regime.

Good Hunting.
CC

Won't work. Slight generalization follows.

First, they are generally underqualified for many jobs. Then, the jobs they can do are done illegally, to avoid income tax AND get unemployment payment at the same time. If a government office threatened they would stop the payments unless they could prove they're was looking for a job this would, of course, reduce the time to do non-official jobs, and therefore changing from typical Western dress to something Bin Laden would use for his speeches, to prevent being hired, would be done.

(less hypothetical than the wording might suggest)

Re: History repeats its self
 

What you ask is impossible for me to elaborate on without getting technical. Let's put it this way, the world as you know it is soon to be at an end by our own doing. NASA will probably build the first replicator in their quest for carbon nanotubes and their goal of an elevator to space (no joke) - http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2000/ast07sep_1.htm - Anyway, play the game Deus Ex (the original) if you want an inkling of how someone could do exactly what I describe (Can someone make a worthy sequal to this game PLEASE!!!???). Everything in that game was funny to me in a way, because it is actually based on fact.

Here are some of the Nanotech pioneers and some of them have given up research because they don't want nanotech and have already peered into the close future:

http://www.crnano.org/dangers.htm

Little do people realize that they are sitting on the doorstep to an unknown future. It is actually scary!!! :cry: Terrorists are not your real problem, this is. Imagine manipulating an atom and turning it into anything you want!!! Imagine the control a select few could weild on the many?

-S

PS. Did I mention that the complexity to build nanotech is about as complex as building a Boeing 747? It is only a matter of time.

PPS. Good things can come out of this too - imagine Star Treks holodeck! You are also on the doorstep of this becoming a reality!

PPPS. Anyone watch Terminator 2 or 3? Liquid metal machines like that is not far off. Skynet, the god and destroyer of all mankind! Armagedden anyone?

PPPPS. Imagine a terrorist with this kind of technology? The bible mentions that of two men who the world will never catch who spread locusts on the landscape, and all will run from their destruction. Maybe it is referencing Bin Laden spreading Nanobots that destroy entire cities? A nanobot in this form is very similar to a locusts in the destruction it will cause, only entire objects and entire cities would be destroyed.

PPPPPS. The worst idea yet - the power of god himself in the hands of man himself. Only one possible outcome - undeniable suppression and control since everyone knows ultimate power corrupts.