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jumpy 01-31-06 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Type XXIII
He knew printing the cartoons would offend muslims yet still went ahead and did so.

Innevitably that's what selling newspapers is all about :shifty:
But at the same time getting all hot and bothered about some unscroupulus editors attempts to sell more newspapers with attention grabing articles, pictures or boobies on page three or whatever, is just not worth diplomatic and social trouble.
Death threats are a bit too much and issued way too freely when something is decided to be 'blasphemous', particularily where some of the hardline islamic beliefs reside. Drawing silly pictures is just that- silly pictures. I could maybe understand such a thing if the image of the prophet were depicting some explicit sexual act or other gross suggestion that would be unseemly of Muhammad or any other such figure- that would be in terrribly bad taste and I think many people would recognise the slighted reaction and outrage as entirely just.
But unless I've been looking at the wrong link, theres nothing about those cartoons that deserves (imo) provoking such a violent reaction.
Tollerence and understanding is all very well and good, and those who advocate dialog between peoples deserve our support. But why does there always have to be some disgruntled group complaining and pushing for more rights, more recognition, more defferential treatment which impinges on the host nation, who are usually fairly open and relaxed to just aboubt anything its citizens whish to to?
I don't get it... we have freedom of speech and (to a reasonable extent) action to do as we please and you want more freedom, specifically the right to tell other's what the can or can not say or do or publish because you find it offensive as a minority? That doesn't quite make sense; you want freedom to express yourselves but are not comfortable with extending that right to those who's hospitality you so fully enjoy.
Now that's just not polite.

This is not to say that there are not muslims who don't really care about all this cartoon hoo-ha and are happy to get on with their lives the same as the rest of us, but as usual only the most vocal and strident voices are paid any attention, which is probably why they do it.

TLAM Strike 01-31-06 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahoy!
Well, I gonna buy a LEGO set to my nephew and in the weekend I will eat Danish sausages and drink lovely Carlsberg beer.

And I shall eat a Danish in support of my northern European friends! :-j

Oh and the Danish invented LEGOs? Wow you learn something new everyday. I think I might take my LEGO Russian Foxtrot out of the closet in support too! :up:

Iceman 01-31-06 03:20 PM

What can I say...I will let this one go by. Just PAR for the course.

Always was suspicious of those ole danes..lol. jk

P.S. Thks Mike for the link to the pics...watched the South Park Episode lol...http://www.scientomogy.com/south_park_scientology.phpLMAO... :rotfl:

Skybird 01-31-06 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
We insulted their most fundamental belief with a cartoon and they insulted ours by suggesting we censor our freedom of speech and press. Now lets flush a few Korans to make up for the flag burning and the universe will be even. :hmm:

I’m glad Libya and the Saudis pulled their embassies, personally I wouldn’t want to talk to such people if this is how they react. :roll:

Thorughout history Muhammad has been depicted in islamic countries, in books and scriptuires, portraits, even on housewalls in present time. Another example of how islam so often speaks hypocritical with split tongues. If their belief can be insulted that easily, and if their god can be offended so easily, than both cannot be very impressive in quality, essence and format. It'S a medieval or earlier society that thinks that such things are important and can be offending to any deity. This also means that it cannot behave any different than it does. it got stuck many centuries ago

McBeck 02-01-06 07:17 AM

Gees...this is from the news today:

1) Hamas demands that the goverment punishes the newspaper and the artists

2) A local danish politicians started a SMS campaign to stop people from buying middleeastern goods. :nope:

3) The apolegy from the newspaper has FINALY made it to the middleeastern medias...after it has been wrongly translated and such.
(Wonder why it took so long? They made it last week...)

4) Indonesia is joining the hysteria too.

5) A french newspaper has printed the cartoons too....without prior accept from Jyllandsposten (The danish newspaper that original printed them)

Whats next?!?!?! :stare: :down:

Torplexed 02-01-06 07:55 AM

Cartoonists are evil. They should be shot on sight. :yep:

joea 02-01-06 08:12 AM

BANG

The Avon Lady 02-01-06 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by McBeck
5) A french newspaper has printed the cartoons too....without prior accept from Jyllandsposten (The danish newspaper that original printed them)

Whats next?!?!?! :stare: :down:

German, Spanish and Italian papers, too!

And we're all being asked to buy Danish butter cookies. OK, I can live with that. :yep:

August 02-01-06 12:31 PM

I say good for the Euros.

The Avon Lady 02-01-06 03:43 PM

Another for the collection:

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1673/03wp.jpg

CCIP 02-01-06 07:32 PM

I drew a picture of Mohammed in one of my classes today.

No, I didn't show anyone :shifty:

August 02-01-06 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP
I drew a picture of Mohammed in one of my classes today.

No, I didn't show anyone :shifty:

Allah knows. You're doomed infidel.

retired1212 02-02-06 01:39 AM

nm

Onkel Neal 02-02-06 05:47 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11097877/
Editor fired after publication of Islam cartoons

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Co...6a.hmedium.jpg

But hey, it's ok if a bunch of black cloaked freaks rip your national flag :roll:

Marhkimov 02-02-06 05:59 AM

Ironic, isn't it?

They feel that it's NOT ok for the Danes to publish obscene cartoons... But it is totally ok for some pussy-assed-hoodlums dressed in black masks to deface/burn another country's national flag...


Oh, what morals they do have (or have not)...


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