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Oberon 01-19-06 05:28 AM

From the manual for my machine

"2. Set the start position to EHZ, the first trigram of the message

3. In this position, decode the second trigram TBS to retrieve the message-key. This should result in XWB

4. Set the decoded message-key (XWB) as start position on the machine.

5. Now decode the rest of the message..."

Basically it's a decode within a code. You set the start as EHZ, type in TBS to get XWB and then use that as the start for the rest of the message

DMarkwick 01-19-06 07:12 AM

So when the Captain in Das Boot mentioned a triple-encrypted message, he had a further trigram to do?

Oberon 01-19-06 11:59 AM

Quote:

My bad!

Right, gonna try this again.

Walzenlage: (b) II IV V
Ringstellung: 1 19 10
Steckerverbindungen: AC NO UB WQ LX ZH JV YI KP TE

1st Trigram = EZH
2nd Trigram = TUP

HLVS UJWDZ DYIFT NNTZB WZSMA PIMMK VKH

Should hopefully read
THSIATESTTOSEEIFICANTYPETHSRIGHT
Alrighty, you've set up all the rings, rotors and plugs right.
Set the start to EZH and then type TUP which should decipher as YPD
Now set the start to YPD and type in the message.

Triple encoded...hmmmm....I guess that would be 3 Trigrams instead of two....Gonna give one of those a try in the next post.

Oberon 01-19-06 12:22 PM

Valzenlage:
G IV I VII

Ringstellung:
HUQK

Steckerverbindungen:
BL DN ZR XV CT QW IA FY UO KH

1st Trigram: WGQE
2nd Trigram: BCDP
3rd Trigram: GXZM

Message
AYLJ

Oberon 01-19-06 12:46 PM

:damn: B (I was doing so well with my instructions :88) )

kenijaru 01-19-06 06:34 PM

settings: (thin B) Gamma V, III. VIII
ringsteilung: 16, 10, 22, 25
connections: bn xt mv de kr jg qz ow

msg from BdU:

1st thingy:WDBM
2nd thingy:ENEE

ICJB HDWY U

Frankenstein 01-19-06 10:54 PM

Valzenlage: (C) Gamma IV VII VI

Ringstellung: 15 18 9 14

Steckerverbindungen: AK TB LU CV FN WI HY OR PZ

Start: ZFLE

YSQE YHIT XGPP NJWD SYIS
RCMY YQDW MRIE LVNT EURN
MXGN SJVP KRDL LOBN FVAJ
UHTS BFQW VVHO KAUK QCPT
OEVN GSVT PASL PWPM FJDY
QYFN NBMW YLGI WGZB KPAU
EPXK VDKB JCCY NEMQ YCPU
MSUC NOKN VNOZ QXPD HOPG
OSYY YPAK LWNZ DSCC FKLQ
AHMX WGLK XO

kenijaru 01-19-06 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankenstein
Valzenlage: (C) Gamma IV VII VI

Ringstellung: 15 18 9 14

Steckerverbindungen: AK TB LU CV FN WI HY OR PZ

Start: ZFLE

YSQE YHIT XGPP NJWD SYIS
RCMY YQDW MRIE LVNT EURN
MXGN SJVP KRDL LOBN FVAJ
UHTS BFQW VVHO KAUK QCPT
OEVN GSVT PASL PWPM FJDY
QYFN NBMW YLGI WGZB KPAU
EPXK VDKB JCCY NEMQ YCPU
MSUC NOKN VNOZ QXPD HOPG
OSYY YPAK LWNZ DSCC FKLQ
AHMX WGLK XO

same settings:
SOSY UUWZ WQBH IRGP BBGJ ZAVE ASZG EAUV SEZA VTSL YWTC BPMS RQYL KQCP HDPF VFEN PTUY FTND CCQL HIMI VCOS IOIS RWXV XJRK XSOJ TEXA EXQF POAU AOKM TMKV NAXB BBSA PFSJ MAIO SEQB TQZD IDHC WRLZ AN

edit: another msg, this one can be picked up by these 2 settings:

wide B reflector + V IV III
ringsteilung: 10 15 22
connections: as lm dv kq gt iy zw
start position: zbf
thin B reflector + Beta V IV III
ringsteilung: 1 10 15 22
connections: as lm dv kq gt iy zw
start position: azbf

XCBQ YHCZ QYGA DWTY TQMS JNFJ PLMB PAPC IZHZ QQCA HYIU WRKE LANK VUBD QUYX VRBM WNLA WZYK CPUF PRVL AWOA ODSX
(sry about the spelling mistakes, i kinda wrote too fast and there are some letters missing and i would have to start all over again to correct them)

IronOutlaw 01-29-06 10:20 PM

Enigma
 
Sehr Geehrt!

I have been investigating using Enigma for a while now and thought the following may be of interest.

The first site below is a source of much information, with pics, from Bletchley Park. You will need to browse through the various parts of this extensive site.

The other site is by a dedicated Enigma fan in Holland, who is also very helpful with advice. I cannot recommend him highly enough.

It is, to me at least, the best Enigma simulator with a simple set of instructions.

He also provides a source of codes, BUT, whenever you generate a set of codes for a particular month it will be different from any other set generated for that same month. Thus people who want to use the sim must generate one set of codes then pass them on to all users.

If any of you guys would like to contact me at off site at <hmsironduke@ozemail.com.au> (it's easier for attachments), please feel free. I have a been working on creating forms to use with Enigma based on originals, as well as a manual based on the original German one.

Just for interest I also have a continuous A4 template for KTB's in Word.

http://www.codesandciphers.org.uk/

http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/enigmasim.htm

Hope this helps!

Mit kameradschaftlichen Grüßen
Kapitänleutnant Wilhelm Weiß

NeonSamurai 01-30-06 09:23 PM

Walzenlage: (c) G 7 3 8
Ringstellung: 18 11 24 15
Steckerverbindungen: AX BC TY HQ ZR JN EV GW FS

1st Trigram = WOYD
2nd Trigram = GMPV

AQGB SFBW OWGF YLVR
MHHY NBCM XXXY XHQQ
ZNYN QOVT GRHG RBKP
LCGO HJIB FJXN VXFI
XZFV VHDG POMX JG

;)

STEED 01-31-06 10:22 AM

Interesting download that Enigma very useful as I am off to vist
Bletchley Park this year :)


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