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TLAM Strike 01-16-06 10:44 PM

You laugh now but you might just end up being known as ‘Bill Nichols, Fluffy Bunny Man’, you know I am that devious, and Neal has a talent for avatars… :D

Happy Times 01-17-06 01:05 AM

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/facility/index.html :o Pretty large program, and hard to destroy all off it from air. Those mountains are probably carved hollow. They have past the point of no return, i have to say that an Israeli response can come at any time. If Americans werent in Iraq they would have attacked allready. :yep:

TLAM Strike 01-17-06 01:30 AM

:ping:
That’s only 48 targets not counting the mines (those don't pose an immediate threat an can be dealt with at our leisure).

Lets assume it takes 30 Cruise Missiles to take out each site that’s 1440 bombs. Lets say the US plans on using just B-52s armed with AGM-86 missiles, 20 per plane so that’s 72 flights needed, there are 44 combat coded in the air force so that requires just over 1 and a half missions per plane.

In reality we wouldn’t just use B-52 but you get the point, the US has a lot of firepower at its disposal. A mass attack against fixed installations like this is what the US Military has been waiting for since WWII!

TteFAboB 01-17-06 03:09 AM

Let Iran strike first, as CCIP said: There is no other way to form a coalition to fight a war against Iran, if Ahmadinejad is not a bluff, let him show himself to the world.

Abraham 01-17-06 07:01 AM

War with Iran?
 
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Originally Posted by Bill Nichols
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Originally Posted by Deathblow
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Originally Posted by Skybird
Never have seen Bill Nichols starting a political thread in all my years here. :o

This makes me afraid..... :dead:

*goes and turns on the news*

Hey, I'm just starting my Masters degree in Defense and Strategic Studies. Everyone should be VERY afraid! :lol:

Bill Nichols, Master of Defense.

Not just Defense...
Don't forget the Strategic Studies.

Should make you a regular on this forum!
:D

Bill Nichols 01-17-06 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike
You laugh now but you might just end up being known as ‘Bill Nichols, Fluffy Bunny Man’, you know I am that devious, and Neal has a talent for avatars… :D

How did you know that's what my wife calls me?

:rotfl:

Abraham 01-17-06 07:21 AM

War with Iran
 
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Originally Posted by MadMike

Nice sites, MadMike, I bookmarked them.
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Konovalov 01-17-06 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
It's always the same kind of poisenous, egocentric idiots getting others into suffering. Loud voice replaces mind, missionizing spirit replaces heart, they say "soul" and mean "ego".

It reminds me of characters working behind the scenes that unknown to most play a significant part in formulating policy direction such as in the lead up to the Iraq War. Laurie Mylroie springs immediately to mind with her questionable (big understatement) theories.

Skybird 01-17-06 10:20 AM

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/7/120534.shtml

:dead:

Konovalov 01-17-06 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/7/120534.shtml

:dead:

Yikes! :o If this were to be true then it would have to rank as one of the most monumental intelligence stuffups ever with the aid of that Russian scientist. :nope:

Skybird 01-17-06 11:17 AM

Yesterday, by chance, I also stumbled over the following quote by Tukydides on the Peloponesian war (as always, my attempt to translate from German). It is advise valid for both sides in this conflict, I think, and a perspective by which both peoples should judge their leaders and imagined intentions of theirs:

German:
Nach Bedarf ändern sie die Bedeutung der Wörter. Dumme Angriffslust gilt als mutige Aufopferung, vorausdenkendes Erwägen als Deckmantel der Feigheit. Wildes Draufgängertum hält man für Mannesart, wägendes Weiterberaten für schönklingenden Vorwand der Ablehnung. Wer schilt und tobt, ist bestimmt zuverlässig; wer widerspricht, verdächtig. Wer mit Überfall einem anderen, der vielleicht plant, zuvorkommt, erntet Lob – erst recht aber, wer einen anderen, der nichts Böses vorhat, dessen beschuldigt

English:
As required for their needs they are changing the meaning of words. Stupid aggressiveness is taken for courageous sacrifice, thinking ahead (and beyond) is taken as the covering of cowardness. Wild daring/recklessness they think is true male virtue, pondering thought and advice is nice-sounding excuse for rejection. The one who is scolding and raging for sure must be reliable/trustworthy, the one who contradicts, is suspicious. The one who is forestalling a feared attack his enemy maybe is planning, earns praise - even more so if he is accusing somebody else of something evil that this someone has no intention of doing.
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Use Google on operation Merlin. There are a couple of reports on it. the site I wanted to quote - I currently cannot access. The Guardian also had a bigger story on it some days ago (also a no-go for me, currently). It's pretty much old - and almost forgotten - news in Germany. Me tends to think it is a true story.

Bill Nichols 01-17-06 11:20 AM

http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts...678218,00.html

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10755448/site/newsweek/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...5/ixworld.html

Skybird 01-17-06 11:23 AM

Thanks Bill, you must have red my mind. These are exactly the two sites I had on my mind.

Bill Nichols 01-17-06 11:25 AM

Try this on for size:

http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen...0601060708.asp

Konovalov 01-17-06 11:36 AM

I would suspect that morale within the CIA isn't very high right now.


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