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malcymalc 02-03-06 06:34 AM

Ok try this link for ships seized by the US Government in June 1941:

http://www.usmm.org/foreign.html

Cheers,
Malcolm

GlobalExplorer 02-03-06 01:17 PM

Hi Malcolm,
Excellent! The list of italian ships is quite substantial. I will probably include them in the next release.
GlobalExplorer

GlobalExplorer 02-03-06 02:26 PM

@Myszkin: There aren't that many polish units in the campaign layer, but I would like to include them anyway. Do you have info about the polish fleet 1939, so that there could be some live in the Baltic during 1939? Any help welcome.

@Alyebard: Muchas gracias. Y todo es en espaƱol! Creo que voy a leer un poco ..

Myszkin 02-06-06 05:49 AM

In 1939 polish merchant fleet consisted 36 ships of total tonnage 117 000 BRT:

Liners:

new liners (1-4 years old):
m/s "Pilsudski"
m/s "Batory"
m/s "Chrobry"
m/s "Sobieski"

old liners:

s/s "Pulaski"
s/s "Kosciuszko"

Merchant:

"Robur" series:

- Robur III (also known as "Kmicic")
- Robur IV (aka "Czestochowa")
- Robur V (aka "Kordecki")
- Robur VI (aka "Zbaraz")
- Robur VIII (aka "Zagloba")

others:

s/s "Warszawa", "Wisla", "Rozewie", "Oksywie", "Lida", "Lwow", "Lublin", "Lech" ...will be continued ;)

PS: ships commisioned during the war: "Paderewski", "Tobruk", Narwik"

greetings,
Myszkin

GlobalExplorer 02-06-06 06:48 AM

@Myszkin: Thats already a very good list, and the names are distinctively polish. Do you intend to add more names? I ask because it's easier for me to insert them only once, and not check which ones I have and which ones I haven't.

To all the others that helped me: thanks a lot!

Through this thread I got:

-Italian names
-some Finish names
-some Polish names
-Turkish names

I still need:
-Romanian
-Bulgarian
-Yugoslavian
-Russian (more, includes Ukrainian and Georgian)
-Finish (more)
-German (more)
-ASW Groups
-Axis convoys

Myszkin 02-06-06 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer
@Myszkin:Do you intend to add more names?

Yes, I do! Coming soon!

PS: All names are authentic of course.

GlobalExplorer 02-06-06 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myszkin
Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer
@Myszkin:Do you intend to add more names?

Yes, I do! Coming soon!

PS: All names are authentic of course.

That's even better then!

GE

Myszkin 02-08-06 07:22 AM

Polish names - update:

"Lewant", "Puck", "Hel", "Opole" (Liberty ship), "Wilno", "Narew", "Kroman", "Chorzow"

and almost that's all at this moment.

Joe S 02-08-06 02:28 PM

I have a copy of the US navy manual on the identification of merchant ships, I probably cant get to it today but could send you a list of the names of ships included in that book. I think it would be too long to post, can I send it via regualar mail? If so, send you mail address, Joe S

GlobalExplorer 02-11-06 08:06 PM

I have included the new ship names for Finland, Italy Poland, Turkey, Yugoslavia in the current version of Sh3Gen. Thanks guys!

I have a question concerning Quadrants. Today I had to invent two new quadrants, because in Sh3 they don't exist. To cover Black Sea and East Mediterranean I use quadrants "CL" and "CP". Do you think this is acceptable?

GE

malcymalc 02-12-06 07:46 AM

Global,
You were asking about "hunter killer" groups last week. That is more of an American term. The British had Support Groups:

March 1943
1st SG - 1 sloop, 5 frigates
2nd SG - 7 sloops
3rd SG - 5 destroyers
4th SG - 5 detroyers
5th SG - 1 escort-carrier, 2 destroyers
6th SG - 1 Bogue, 2 destroyers (this was an American group, the others were all British).

By July 1943 there were 12 such groups in the Atlantic (the above plus 7th, 21st, 37th, 38th, 39th and 40th).

As you are aware these groups took the war to the Uboots, and combined with new technology (and improved use of the technology) with the qualitative decline of Uboot personnel turned the tide.

Regards,
Malcolm


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