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Alright, If it is examples you wish, On Mudd's women. The Enterprise is dispatched to an Emergency Distress from Henry Mudd's freighter as it is about to collide with a asteroid while it tried to fly through the Asteroid field. The enterprise damaged three of its dilithium crystals and the only way to repair it was to fine lithium and the only lithium mine in the sector was Rigel 12, Mudd is using some kind of narcotic on three women to enhance their beauty*pheromones I think) and is trying to sell them to the miners on Rigel 12, one of the girls evie finds herself attracted to Kirk and him to her. When the enterprise arrived on Rigel 12 Mudd and the women beam down to surface, where Evie(one of the three women) becomes fed up with her plight and runs away, but Kirk finds her without difficulty using ship sensors. In the meantime, he learns the secret to the women's beauty: Mudd has been providing them with the Venus drug. Childress(one of the miners) rescues Evie, but wants nothing to do with her when her beauty effect wears off. Kirk beams down to collect the lithium from Childress, at the same time providing Evie with red gelatin that she believes to be the Venus drug. Evie believes herself once again to be beautiful, and unintentionally reveals her natural inner beauty. In the end, Kirk gets his lithium, and helps evie to find her natural qualities. In Charlie X, when Charlie gave Rand a swat on the fanny, she protested, and chastised him for it. Later she asked the Captain to give the kid a talking to on her behalf, and Kirk was happy to oblige. In Kirk's conversation with Charlie that followed, it was made clear that Kirk has great respect for Rand, and for women's rights in general. Captain John Christopher, the 20th century jet pilot, sees many astounding things aboard the 23rd century starship, in Tomorrow Is Yesterday. One thing that really impressed him was the sight of this person strolling through the halls. "A woman!?" Christopher exclaimed. "A crewman", Kirk blandly replied. That is just a few of the many episodes, one could scour the Guides for days finding evidence to support my theory. You may think Kirk was a womanizer but some could say the same about James Bond. In all honest, besides kissing which is done quite a bit. I don't see how he could be seen as womanizing. . woman·ized, woman·iz·ing, woman·iz·es v. intr. To pursue women lecherously. v. tr. To give female characteristics to; feminize. I didn't see him as a lecher. =================================== Ransom wasn't a bad guy, he was just comitting mass genocide for his own selfish needs. He had a crew and he did everything he could for them which included throwing out the Prime Directive and interfering with the evolution of another species. Though this may seem as compassionate, if he ever got his crew home that way they would all be court martialed in one way or another and have to live with the guilt they single handedly plotted and executed the near extinction of an unhostile alien species which was only known to them by the trust of the locals who shared the creature's existance with them. |
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You can respect woman and still be lecherous. In the end he was always just trying to get in their pants or get something they owned. He never really fell in love with anyone like Picard or Sisko did. ‘Tomorrow is Yesterday’ is a bad example since woman served in the military back then IIRC. The writers were just trying to make a point, what do you bet that crewman was just a Yeoman and not an engineer or security officer? Even Uhura was just a glorified telephone operator! The first equal female character we see on Star Trek is Maj. Kira on DS9. |
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http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/toswomen.htm I think we're both at a stalemate considering neither of us has incontrovertible proof that Kirk was or was not a lecher. Perhaps I should rephrase, Ransom and his crew were being selfish. They murdered an alien species as fuel for their journey home. In a way that was him being personally selfish because instead of following protocol and being respectful to all sentient life. Ransom ignored all the oaths he took in joining starfleet so he could get himself and his crew home. You could say he was doing it for them but if he were thinking about his crew he wouldn't have ordered them to violate and abandon all the laws they swore to uphold. Yeoman Rand was the Captain's secretary not a glorified position in any respect but the responsibility for administering all the staff aboard the ship by writing up duty rosters can't be easy and I respect that the enterprise's stations were crewed at all times without sleepy crew. Nurse Chapel was also a respectable character with a respectable job, she saved peoples' lives, in truth all shows of that time period used women as supporting roles. But Star Trek did something that no other show did. Uhura was African-American and she was a Woman and she was part of the senior staff not the ship's maid or cook or any other part. She was the communication's officer in effect the Radio-woman for the ship. You try running a switchboard sometime and tell me you don't find some new kind of respect for the job. |
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Kirk seemed to use this a few times, 'The Immunity Syndrome' he orders Spock to destroy what is possibly a unique life form that is threading the Federation. 'A Taste of Armageddon' he changes two civilization’s way of life to save his ship- it seems a nice ending but what if by destroying that computer he just gave one side an opportunity to crush the other (one side can't take casualties in their war) or just forced them to fight it out again? Quote:
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I don't think Genocide is justifiable by any means. One crew compared to an entire Federation, well that seems more justifiable then a single crew. Kirk risked his crew to stop that thing and was given no choice. Ransom had a choice he did not need to use the creatures he could have travelled home by the less morally atrocious means that voyager did, note I said Less. Ummm... A taste of Armageddon, where the two aliens fought wars by shooting computer simulations at each other and then vaporizing their people to avoid collateral damage? He didn't destroy the computers to save his crew, he and his crew had broken free he could have beamed to the enterprise but he chose to destroy the computer to stop the senseless killing. By using those computers there was no communication only simulated war and suicide. His actions bent the prime directive but as you said he could have invoked Reg. 3. But he didn't have to destroy it, he felt it was his moral obligation. I see no relation to those events and how Ransom was purposely murdering creatures for a jump to speed for his trip home. He used those creatures like they were whiskey to batten a mix. He didn't do it because he had no choice, their ship was far better armed then voyager and had More power it could have gotten home by its own steam. The aliens he used were not a threat to anyone Ransom made Humanoids a threat to them. Quote:
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Intrepid Class: Length: 344.5 Meters Crew: 150 Velocity: Cruising: Warp 6 Maximum: Warp 9.975 Duration Standard Mission: 6 Years Recommended Yard Overhaul: 24 years Weapons: 11 Type X Phasers 4 Photon Torpedo Tubes Embarked Craft: 4(0) Shuttlecraft :lol: Nova Class: Length 165 meters Crew: 80 Velocity Cruising: Warp 6 Maximum: Warp 8 Duration: Standard Mission: 2 years Recommended Yard Overhaul: 6 years Weapons: 11 Type X Phasers 2 Photon Torpedo Tubes Embarked Craft: 2 Shuttlecraft etc And as I said before he made a mistake by killing one of them the rest was self defense. |
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You should rewatch the episode, the enterprise broke free of the computer and kirk broke free of his holding cell. Though a violation of the prime directive, his actions didn't murder helpless people. They stopped it from happening in the form of mass suicide. If I remember the Equinox was a threat in Voyager, the two ships battled and Voyager was at a disadvantage. |
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LMAO...Dat was funny...
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